有人用过美国ZONE的4x5木机吗?
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[1 楼] 旧徕卡 [资深泡菜]
11-4-28 02:59
我在国外网上看到两种非常不同的评价,有人看好,也有人认为其缺点很多
[9 楼] zhuluzhiyin [泡菜]
12-1-24 22:23
我刚买的 zone 跟 wista 合作时期的 初初版
[8 楼] Polarlight [资深泡菜]
11-4-28 21:03
都是挺偏的评论,如果能把它们称为评论的话。第一,都在说Calumet的后期Zone VI产品,跟之前的Zone VI和后来的Wisner差了不少。 第一个家伙说的只不过是样子上的差别, 第二个家伙吗,就看他在拿135鸡来做比较,就不说啥了。

ZONE VI 有着三,四代产品,Wista 的初初期,跟Ron Wisner合作设计的初期,跟Ron闹翻了的中期(最好的),卖给了Calumet的后期(最差的)

基本上是沿袭于Deardorff的设计,除了能前移,换广角皮腔和多了几个水平,跟Deardorff没有啥操作差别。镜板跟Deardorff 也是一样的大小。样子,重量,质量(中期)跟Deardorff, Wisner都是半斤八两。有些制作细节比Wisner好,设计上Wisner有些地方比Zone VI好。

性价比来说Zone Vi是超值地,500多美刀就差不多了。
[7 楼] 590117 [泡菜]
11-4-28 20:58
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[6 楼] 590117 [泡菜]
11-4-28 20:52
只见过一台六区木机。

制作工艺一流,手感上佳。设计有独到之处。艾伯尼、飞利浦都有它的影子。

性价比高于艾伯尼和迪尔多夫许多。是一款可收、可用的机器。
[5 楼] benny_tbg [资深泡菜]
11-4-28 03:14
阅读理解哈
[4 楼] 旧徕卡 [资深泡菜]
11-4-28 03:14
有人了解ZONE这个牌子的吗?似乎是属于那种特别小规模的个人工作室手工制作的相机,不知制作的工艺水平,口碑如何呢?
[3 楼] 旧徕卡 [资深泡菜]
11-4-28 03:01
而这个人却把它给退了:

http://photo.net/equipment/large-format/zone-VI-report

I just returned my Zone VI 4x5 field camera and I thought I'd let you know why.

Good point
The camera looks beautiful, with its polished mahogany standards and gold-plated fixtures; people always stop to ask you if it is an antique (with a Sinar, they just stop to ask if you are sane).

Bad points
the camera is heavy and bulky, almost as bad as a Sinar F2 and not nearly as small as a Horseman FA
the lensboards are big losers. First of all, they have to be almost forced into the camera since the clips don't retract far enough. Secondly, after laboriously removing a lens, one must then push the clips back to fold the camera (a Horseman would let you leave a small lens mounted so I hear). Finally, the dish around the rear element isn't large enough for either of the two spanner wrenches I tried to work, i.e. you have to spend $150 for a special wrench or you can't share lenses with another camera.
the camera would be way better if it had a collapsible focussing hood so that the ground glass was protected in transport and also so that one didn't have to carry a bulky focussing cloth
folding up the camera is a tedious nightmare of unscrewing what seems like dozens of crudely knurled knobs -- not much fun on a freezing day.
focussing involves manipulating knobs on both sides of the camera
even with all knobs tightened, the standards seem to move without my wanting them to.
Using one of these for just a day will remind you of why they invented Nikons.

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[2 楼] 旧徕卡 [资深泡菜]
11-4-28 03:00
http://photo.net/large-format-photography-forum/0036Ce  :

Bob Shell: Zone VI One of Best LF Cameras?Neil Poulsen , Nov 07, 2001; 11:37 p.m.

I paged through the recent Photo Techniques and happened to see an article entitled Best 25 Cameras (or something) written by Bob Shell and another author. I checked for LF, and they had listed about three cameras, the Graphics press camera, the Sinar-P, and the Zone VI. They might have had another camera listed, but it wasn't a Wisner.

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So, is this the best that the authors can do in the department of discriminating choice? The Zone VI has never compared to the workmanship and the beauty of a Wisner. This is especially true of late, given what I consider to be the poor workmanship of the Zone VI "Ultra Lite" cameras. I don't wish to insult any who may have purchased an Ultra-Lite, because I suppose that they have a certain functionality to them. But, I saw both the 8x10 and 4x5 versions at Calumet this summer, and they are definitely not in the same league with the Wisners. The bellows aren't as long or as good, it's not put together as well (kind of loose), and you get the feeling the black anodized metal parts would scratch just by looking at them hard. It's not a camera that I would buy. And, consider that it was Wisner who originally designed the Zone VI camera! One can also consider other advances that Wisner has made to LF photography, some of the giant format cameras that he's made, the 20x24 polaroid, his championing of older, lighter-weight lenses, the convertible plasmat series of lenses, etc.

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I think that it would be cheritable to suggest that this choice was made out of ignorance, because I don't think that's the case. Certainly, the choice is misleading. Perhaps the best category in which this choice falls is comical.

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P.S. I don't own a Wisner.