俺用RAP拍过几次风光，每次都感觉它的色彩表现与众不同，似乎紫色的成份多了一些，就象这张片子，从当时的情况看，俺估计RVP的天色不会是这么紫，不知是否有哪位兄弟有同样的尝试和体会？参数：F90X, Nikkor AF60/2.8D Micro, Fuji Astia 100, f/8, 1/80", handhold

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俺也有这个感觉。
RVP的片子，蓝色和紫色很特殊。老远一眼就能看出来。

也许是冲洗的原因。但我在江湖里看到很多RVP的片子，在表现阴天里的灰调时，有明显的
偏品现象，我自己使用时也是遇到了同样的问题，一直困惑不解。

To fzb兄，

如果不是专门去拍冰灯（俺指的那种职业化的拍摄，也就是拍这玩艺去混饭钱），而想观光和拍片兼顾，带绞架可能会增添很多麻烦。上架子的活应该是比较慢的，在零下30度里，以这种速度可能拍不到十张四节电池就game over了。用个结实一点的迷你架子，想拍的时候找个好的支撑点，将就拍拍算了，其实那些个破玩艺没啥可拍的，五彩宾纷花里胡哨的，一点都不上相，另外，稍为好点的景子前面都是后脑勺子，想好好拍也难To XI老，

正如135DCF2兄说的那样，东北没您想象的那么冷，原因就是北方空气干燥，冷空气穿透力不强。不过，今年哈尔滨据称确实是真冷，听说是近20年（or 30年？）来最严酷的寒冬To jsnjdbh兄，

RVP偏品吗？它可是非常中性的，稍偏冷峻，俺手头也有不少阴天的RVP片子，从来没感觉到这种偏色，您看到的会不会是。。。。。冲片的误差？

EB是偏暖，拍阴天会不错的，道理可能类似加81C。EB拍低色温题材也易出彩，但风格与RVP很不一样。

西老、别把哈尔滨的冷相像的那么厉害。
当年俺也干过一条厚毛裤过冬的事。和南方冬天的阴湿不同、东北是干冷、没有
冻沧。

Fotobug, Thanks a lot for you help!
我会带超过两套的电池。
我没有mf-26因为不需要那些功能。
MB-10现在还没有买，主要是想用锂电。(除了上mb-10加锂电电池夹，还有什么方法减低低温对电池的影响？)只要有机会，我一定会让我的相机尽量贴近我的心脏。我没有manfrotto，我打算带Gitzo126，相机装快装板，一定会带手套作业。(为什么不要用tripod?有什么问题吗？)
Thanks again. ^_^

To fzb, this is my two-cent help.

1) Take two more sets of batteries.
2) Insteat of using the MF-26 data back, I suggest you had better use the default back for your F90X since it doesn't need battery.
3) Remove MB-10 vertical grip from your camera, so you can keep the camera smaller and warm it inside your clothes easily.
4) Forget your Manfrotto tripod. If you do intent to shoot the ice lanterns in the everning, take a minitripod.

RVP这种胶卷有严重偏品的现象，拍个日出日落之类的，效果比较特别；但阴天里用它，其偏品的效果则令人难以接受，所以在阴天里我宁愿用EB。

俺刚才看了，RAP的sensitivity of blue layer的确比RDPIII的高了许多，看来这应该是造成紫色的原因之一，看来以后用RAP要注意了。

现在哈尔滨的天气，俺将家中所有的衣服都穿上可能都受不了。

我正打算春节去雪乡、哈尔滨。不知该如何保护相机。
我用F90X+24-50，正准备入个MB-10用锂电池。万一死了怎么办？怕怕。

I don't think the color bias comes from the higher color temperature. I saw the purple in my other RAP landscape pictures that I took in the summer. I did notice this color bias at that time, but I could not confirm whether the bias came from the development or from the film itself. This was the second time I saw the purple in RAP landscape pcitures. I really suspect that the bias is one of the characteristics of RAP when using it for landscape.

Checking the RAP data sheet, I found the sensitivity of the blue layer is much higher than that of the others. Is this probably the reason?

I guess it may be possible that Astia, as a exclusive portrait film, has optimized its sensitivity for the spectral of lamps and flashes, or the higher blue sensitivity is better for the skin color rendition? This is only my guess, don't take it seriously.As to the weather, it was one of the coldest day when I took this picture. Although I survived, unfortunately, my camera was killed by the cold air before I finished this roll.

No,It is -40 in Haerbin!

It is -36 in Haerbin! I just heard from CCTV! My God!

是否与北方的色温高有关系？在俺这里只有在不见阳光的阴天才可能拍出紫色来。