適馬即將發佈全畫幅Foveon X3傳感器相機?
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[1 楼] 马有牙2 [泡菜]
13-7-29 11:08
还有3天时间适马即将推出全画幅x3相机
[71 楼] 蠟筆小新 [泡菜]
13-8-2 10:54
mike2009 发表于 2013-08-02 08:41
发布了!很好。


发布了全画幅Feveon X3?
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[70 楼] mike2009 [泡菜]
13-8-2 08:41
发布了!很好。
[69 楼] X3er [资深泡菜]
13-8-1 19:54
arthur999 发表于 2013-8-1 17:13
大限已到,弱弱地问一句,敲不敲?

敲,piapia地敲。俺那颗小心已被勾起,这几天还核计什么什么镜头配全幅合适来着。如火的热情不能白白燃烧。 本帖最后由 X3er 于 2013-8-1 19:59 编辑

[68 楼] arthur999 [资深泡菜]
13-8-1 17:13
X3er 发表于 2013-7-31 10:39
要是不出X3全画幅,敲掉马有牙兄弟的牙
大限已到,弱弱地问一句,敲不敲
[67 楼] arthur999 [资深泡菜]
13-8-1 16:59
天溢 发表于 2013-8-1 16:39
只有到那时候大家才会明白本坛取名“色影无忌”引领新潮流之高瞻远瞩。
那时候Sigma的发音可就不是“斯个嘛”,而必须念成,“死过吗”。镜头也不再写成镜头,而是“茎头”,单色写成“胆色”,曝光也成为“抱光‘。所有相机软件设计不允许有抱光不足,都是抱光过度。
现在您明白了吧,适马为什么把24-70的口径设计成82,50标头口径77,因为镜”头“粗大,镜体够长,才能在未来抱光中有足够的”茎“深。由于未来世界的人类的眼中已经没有景,只有茎了,所以未来世界,未来相机所有jing发音的字都取消,只留一个茎字。

哈,※※※到了,就看适马是否有足够的技术力量引领新潮流了。
嗯,天溢兄太有才了,天溢------天才,就一字之差啊
[66 楼] jdleung [资深泡菜]
13-8-1 16:57
应该没有新了,昨天上适马香港服务中心问过,他们说没收到任何通知。

估计所说的新系统是以下这个吧:
適馬即將推出全新付費服務 –“鏡頭接環轉換服務”,客戶可把自己心愛的適馬 Art、Sports 和 Contemporary 系列鏡頭轉換不同接環系統。只需把鏡頭送回適馬在日本的會津廠房,透過更換接環部件及內部核心系統,進行所需的調校及整理,便可改變本身連接相機的接環,換成可接駁其他指定品牌相機的鏡頭。
本帖最后由 jdleung 于 2013-8-1 16:59 编辑

[65 楼] 天溢 [泡菜]
13-8-1 16:39
arthur999 发表于 2013-8-1 16:14
哈哈,还别说,可能性不是没有,当成像设备可以穿透任何材料时,人类也许返璞归真穿皇帝的新衣了。
只有到那时候大家才会明白本坛取名“色影无忌”引领新潮流之高瞻远瞩。
那时候Sigma的发音可就不是“斯个嘛”,而必须念成,“死过吗”。镜头也不再写成镜头,而是“茎头”,单色写成“胆色”,曝光也成为“抱光‘。所有相机软件设计不允许有抱光不足,都是抱光过度。
现在您明白了吧,适马为什么把24-70的口径设计成82,50标头口径77,因为镜”头“粗大,镜体够长,才能在未来抱光中有足够的”茎“深。由于未来世界的人类的眼中已经没有景,只有茎了,所以未来世界,未来相机所有jing发音的字都取消,只留一个茎字。

哈,※※※到了,就看适马是否有足够的技术力量引领新潮流了。
[64 楼] arthur999 [资深泡菜]
13-8-1 16:14
天溢 发表于 2013-8-1 15:20
可按照时下MM们的穿着潮流方向发展,是不会改用防穿透材料的。肯定是走光成常态,而且是X3,三层走光,色香味。您可就好好活吧,到那时候才是货真价实的※※※,大解放,光色※※,美丑※※,生死※※,活着就跟死了一样,死了也在同样行走,只有到那时你才真正理解“行尸走肉”“死而无憾”的深层含义。
哈哈,还别说,可能性不是没有,当成像设备可以穿透任何材料时,人类也许返璞归真穿皇帝的新衣了
[63 楼] leek0 [资深泡菜]
13-8-1 15:42

咁犀利!!!!!
[62 楼] 天溢 [泡菜]
13-8-1 15:32
arthur999 发表于 2013-8-1 10:47
哈哈,真要如此,估计那时候也没有相机这个名词了。可能叫成像记录仪,更重要的是人类穿的衣服材料也会与时俱进,改用防穿透材料,否则走光就成了常态。
到那时候,相机总体还叫相机,可种类分的更细了,首先是男用还是女用,男用相机叫“相妓”,女用相机叫“相鸡”,混搭的叫”翔屐“。其次才是MM型还是GG型,亦或是MG,GM型……
[61 楼] 天溢 [泡菜]
13-8-1 15:20
arthur999 发表于 2013-8-1 10:47
哈哈,真要如此,估计那时候也没有相机这个名词了。可能叫成像记录仪,更重要的是人类穿的衣服材料也会与时俱进,改用防穿透材料,否则走光就成了常态。
可按照时下MM们的穿着潮流方向发展,是不会改用防穿透材料的。肯定是走光成常态,而且是X3,三层走光,色香味。您可就好好活吧,到那时候才是货真价实的※※※,大解放,光色※※,美丑※※,生死※※,活着就跟死了一样,死了也在同样行走,只有到那时你才真正理解“行尸走肉”“死而无憾”的深层含义。
[60 楼] yanhe [资深泡菜]
13-8-1 13:33
build1983 发表于 2013-8-1 09:00
官方改口,免费...不管国内还有没有,至少有个诚意在...
不过...不会革命性产品就是这玩意吧...


国内不是有了分公司?
[59 楼] xieqiao [泡菜]
13-8-1 13:25
leonwork 发表于 2013-8-1 10:53
今天发布?


这是波兰网站英语的最新官方通知:
http://www.rewolucja.sigma-foto.pl/ogloszenieENG.html
Mount Conversion Service
Change your mind? Change you mount.

Introducing Lens Mount Conversion, only from Sigma.
1| Service Concept
2| Service Overview
3| FAQ

1 | Service Concept

We believe that a lens is not only a key device for photographic expression, but also an important resource for photographers. It has been our hope to develop the lens system that is genuinely photographer-centered, and you can enjoy it for a longer period of time. As an experienced lens manufacturer that has been creating a diverse range of interchangeable lenses, our desire and know-how is crystalized in this unique paid service, “Mount Conversion Service”*. With this service, the mount of your owned SIGMA lenses can be converted to another mount system, depending on the specification of the camera bodies.

* This “Mount Conversion Service” is different from a normal repair. In order to apply for the service, please contact your nearest authorized subsidiary / distributor of SIGMA.
Does the camera define the value of your lenses?

The lens you have chosen amongst the others has been used to capture various scenes. The quality that makes taking exact shots you desired possible, the handling you are so familiar with – we are sure that these elements have become a unique character of the lens and have made you feel an even deeper attachment.

Interchangeable lens camera systems appear to be superior in offering photographers more options, allowing them to change lenses freely and have more flexible photographic expression. Nevertheless, each interchangeable lens is limited with the specification of different camera systems. In other words, you can’t use those lenses if you change it from one type to another.

Although lenses are the key devices to create photographic expression, it is a shame that there is no system that purely sets the standard based on the functions and individual qualities of interchangeable lenses.
A lens is your precious resource. Carry it with you longer.

SIGMA has never stopped thinking of ways to create lenses that ensure photographers get the shots they desire and to use for many years, and that they truly require for their own photographic expression.

As an experienced lens manufacturer that has been creating a diverse range of interchangeable lenses, we are proud to introduce the “Mount Conversion Service”. With this service, the mount of your current SIGMA lenses can be changed to another mount of your choice. This service gives a new life to your favorite lenses when you wish to use it on a different camera body.

*This service will be available from September 2nd, 2013

With this service, the mount of your current SIGMA lenses can be changed to another mount of your choice. This service gives a new life to your favorite lenses when you wish to use it on a different camera body.

To ensure your lenses remain yours to use for many years. To achieve a lens system that reflects your preference and interest. We hope you will make use of the SIGMA “Mount Conversion Service”.

For further information, please click the link below.

(This link is only for SIGMA Japan) http://www.sigma-global.com/jp/lenses/cas/mcs/index.html

(Please notify your local contact in the webpage.) Page Top
2 | Service Overview

All lenses from SIGMA’s new three product lines (Art, Contemporary, Sports) will qualify for this paid “Mount Conversion Service”. It enables customers to convert the mount of their current lenses, and we will change the relevant parts for a different mount and its internal core system accordingly.
Contents of Service:
1| Subject parts to change


Currently, the following lenses from those three product lines are eligible for this service:

    Art
    Contemporary,
    Sports.

[Interchangeable lenses for SLR / DSLR cameras] (As of August, 2013)

    35mm F1.4 DG HSM,
    120-300mm F2.8 DG OS HSM,
    30mm F1.4 DC HSM,
    17-70mm F2.8-4 DC MACRO OS HSM / DC MACRO HSM,
    18-35mm F1.8 DC HSM.

[Interchangeable lenses for Mirrorless cameras] (As of August)

    19mm F2.8 DN,
    30mm F2.8 DN,
    60mm F2.8 DN.

Interchangeable lenses for SLR / DSLR cameras (DC / DG lens) are eligible for conversion to the following mount system.

    SIGMA,
    SONY,
    NIKON,
    PENTAX,
    CANON.

Interchangeable lenses for Mirrorless cameras (DN lens) are eligible for conversion to the following mount system.

    MICRO FOUR THIRDS,
    SONY E-mount.

It is not possible to convert a lens to a mount that SIGMA has not released.

The exclusive specification, such as OS function, is subject to adjustment after converting the mount.
2| Date to launch the service

September 2nd, 2013 (in Japan).
3| Cost

This is a paid service regardless of the warranty period of the product. Please ask about costs in your local service.

For Costumers from Poland (K-Consult distribution): please see polish version of this page.
4| How long the service takes?

It is dependent on countries and territories.

In Japan, it is expected to take about 2 weeks. (Please confirm it when you apply for this service.)
5| How we conduct the service

Please contact your nearest authorized SIGMA service station. For this service, it is essential to have necessary optimization and adjustment at the Aizu factory after changing the mount and the internal core system. Thus, please contact your nearest authorized service center and send your lens to our partners in respective countries.
6| Warranty Period

The warranty period after the Mount Conversion will depend on each country’s law. We will check and ensure that the optical performance of all mount converted products remains the same using our original measurement system A1 (Aizu 1).
Products not eligible for the service

Tele-converter, USB DOCK and other accessory parts are not eligible for this Mount Conversion Service.

Page Top

3 | FAQ
FAQ for End-user
1| With this service, can I exchange my lens for a new lens?

No, we will only replace the key components and mount part of your lens. Optimization will be performed so that you can use it on your new camera.
2| Are all the Sigma lenses supported by this service?

Only Sigma lenses from our new three product lines (Contemporary, Art and Sports) will be eligible.
3| Can I request to convert to any mount of my choice?

Yes, as long as the lens in the requested mount has been released by SIGMA as a product.
4| Is it possible to revert to the original mount?

Yes, please request the paid service again, and we will proceed another mount conversion as a new request with new charge.
5| Are there any restrictions of function after the mount conversion?

No. The function of the lens will be same as the product with the mount that has been released by SIGMA.
6| Is there any risk of performance degradation after the mount conversion?

Please be assured that mount conversion will be completed on the basis of the measuring system and concept exactly the same as our new three product lines.
7| Does the serial number change after the mount conversion?

No. Serial number will remain the same as your original lens.
8| How much does Mount Conversion Service cost? (with warranty & outside of warranty)

This is a paid service regardless of warranty. For details, please contact your nearest country representative directly

http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english/network/
9| How long will mount conversion take?
It will depend on the days required for general repair in each country.

10| When I consider to get the mount of my lens converted in the future, would it be still possible to do after a certain time from the point of my purchase?

We will support lenses for 5 years after they have been discontinued.
11| How can I request this service?

Please contact your nearest country representative directly. www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english/network/


FAQ for Distributor Internal use
12| How can we, as distributor proceed this service ?

Please refer the flow chart. Before you send the lens to Japan, make sure to contact [email][email protected][/email] then we will give further instruction.
13| What would be the cost of MCS ?

Please refer “MCS_Service cost_20130723”.

When you announce this service, Sigma would like to ask you to announce total cost including service, shipping, VAT or TAX, and distributor’s margin to the market.

Please check and calculate the total cost that you will offer to the market.
14| How long will Mount Conversion Service take ?

It will take about two weeks in our factory after receiving the lens from you. And once completing MCS, we will return the lens to you by combining to the nearest commercial shipment.
15| Can we handle this service at our own service center ?

TBD. For your information, to proceed this service, your service station needs to have Housing with mount, OS unit, Board as well as to rewrite the data. Therefore, once we have prepared, we ask each of you to take care of the procedure. Until then, please send the lenses to Japan.
16| Depending on mount type, there are OS and non-OS versions. How do you manage such case?

It will depend on each product’s specifications. (Eg. 17-70mm F2.8-4 DC MACRO. If Canon will be changed to Sony, it will be non-OS with a different switch part.)
17| I heard that serial number will not change. What happens if the engraved part needs to be exchanged?

We will ask you to exchange with a part with same serial number engraved.
18| When the mount is changed for example on the 35mmF1.4 from Nikon to Canon, the serial number may already exist for the Canon version of this lens and there would be a duplicate. How will you avoid such problem ?

All SGV products have 8 digits serial number, and they are unique to each lens itself. Therefore there will be no possibility of duplicate.
19| How do you apply warranty if it is considered to be a “new” product? Will new warranty be provided?

It should be treated same as warranty for repaired products. The warranty period after MCS will depend on each country’s law. Thus Sigma Japan will not provide new warranty sheet. Please check the law in your country and apply the warranty after the service according to the law. We will return stamped application sheet, therefore applicants can claim such warranty after MCS by showing the application sheet.
20| If customer has manufacturer warranty valid, will it be invalid?

The longer period of either of the warranty after Mount Conversion or remaining manufacturer warranty will be valid.
21| If the Mount Converted lens is transferred to another user, how would we know the original mount ?

If you cannot recognize the lens please ask Sigma Japan then we will check the history of MCS.
22| the lens was customized using the USB Dock, what happens to the data?

Data including ones adjusted at service center will all be reset, and the lens will be initialized.
23| Should the parts exchanged be returned to the customer?

Due to environmental and safety concerns, we are not going to return them to customers unless the law prohibits it in the customer’s resident country.

If your country prohibits it and you distributor must return the parts to customers, we will return. Please check the law and let Sigma Japan know in advance. In case you have to return the parts, please inform customers in advance the returned parts are not reusable for new MCS or other repairs and they cannot claim discount for another service.

Please check the law in your country if it is necessary to return the parts removed.
24| How should we arrange the shipment to Aizu factory?

In order to save the cost, please combine to your shipment to Aizu factory with other repair items. When we send back to you, we will basically combine to the commercial shipment. For urgent issue, we will find alternative way.
25| What if the lens which customer apply for MCS is defective ?

Depending on the condition of customer's lens, Sigma Japan may not be able to accept it for the Mount Conversion Service. Depending on the condition of the lens, additional repair work may be necessary at additional cost. If additional work is necessary, Sigma Japan will inform distributor after checking.

When you receive the lens, firstly please check at your service center if there is no heavy damage. If there is any, please take picture in advance to avoid claim later. If the condition is too bad, please decline the service.

If you cannot judge, after arriving Japan, we will check the condition.
26| Can a dealer or retailer applies for changing the mount of the inventory?

Basically, only end-users are eligible for this service. If a dealer or another business partner wants to use this service, it is necessary to pay the necessary service charges.
27| What if we wish to change some sentences in press release or website in order to include information about local law or situation?

According to the local situation or law in each country, you can modify the sentence locally as far as the basic contents are following Sigma Japan’s concept of this service.

If it is against law and you must return parts to customers in your country, you can change the part mentioning “Sigma will not return parts” in FAQ or Application sheet.
28| Why this MCS is only for SGV products, and not for old lenses ?

Products launched after SGV concept are designed to support MCS. Thus MCS is available only for SGV.

本帖最后由 xieqiao 于 2013-8-1 13:40 编辑

[58 楼] leonwork [泡菜]
13-8-1 10:53
今天发布?
[57 楼] arthur999 [资深泡菜]
13-8-1 10:47
天溢 发表于 2013-7-29 23:52
不用镜头,全新电子相机。完全使用电子波发射和回馈引发电子显像卡记忆储存。这样的相机已经不再需要任何光学材料,也不惧怕任何恶劣光学条件,总是能够形成最佳电子成像。还不仅如此,能够穿透物体,想哪儿哪儿成像。

相机真正翻天覆地的※※※时代到了!!绝非修修补补所可理解想象的!
哈哈,真要如此,估计那时候也没有相机这个名词了。可能叫成像记录仪,更重要的是人类穿的衣服材料也会与时俱进,改用防穿透材料,否则走光就成了常态。
[56 楼] 极光F22 [泡菜]
13-8-1 10:43
怎么还不见动静
[55 楼] X3er [资深泡菜]
13-8-1 10:28
美痴 发表于 2013-8-1 09:28
完全革新,直接用摄影师的眼珠子当镜头,看得远就是长焦,看得近就是广角。近视眼嘛,没治了,只能先治眼睛去啦。

你这比鹰眼仿生镜头还牛,这叫生物镜头,用芯片把视网膜上的图像无线传输出来
[54 楼] 美痴 [注销用户]
13-8-1 09:28
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[53 楼] wywkof [泡菜]
13-8-1 09:12
build1983 发表于 2013-8-1 09:00
官方改口,免费...不管国内还有没有,至少有个诚意在...
不过...不会革命性产品就是这玩意吧...


入魔早就透露发布内容了,期待越高,失望越大。
至于免费,个人觉得基本不现实,千做万做,亏本生意不做,
真要免费的话,那肯定跟着一大堆限定条件。
[52 楼] build1983 [泡菜]
13-8-1 09:00
X3er 发表于 2013-7-31 14:35
网上改个口,几百元搞定,寄到日本去不现实啊


官方改口,免费...不管国内还有没有,至少有个诚意在...
不过...不会革命性产品就是这玩意吧...
[51 楼] xieqiao [泡菜]
13-8-1 08:21
怎么还没有消息?那个波兰网站停止了。

http://www.rewolucja.sigma-foto.pl/
http://www.sigmaphoto.com/
http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/new/
http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english/new/

本帖最后由 xieqiao 于 2013-8-1 08:32 编辑

[50 楼] X3er [资深泡菜]
13-7-31 14:35
xieqiao 发表于 2013-7-31 12:14
适马周四或将推出免费更换镜头卡口服务
2013年07月31日 09:49   

  新浪数码讯 7月31日上午消息,还记得适马波兰官网出现的那个“与适马一起推翻旧系统,解放已经到来”的海报吗?Photorumors最新消息称,原来这是适马周四将公布的一个新服务的广告语,适马这项新服务将为用户免费更换适马镜头卡口,换句话说如果你要换“门”,至少可以不用出掉手里的适马镜头,当然新系统需要是适马镜头已经覆盖的。

网上改个口,几百元搞定,寄到日本去不现实啊
[49 楼] stevenjdsr [泡菜]
13-7-31 14:09
xieqiao 发表于 2013-07-31 12:14
适马周四或将推出免费更换镜头卡口服务2013年07月31日 09:49     新浪数码讯 7月31日上午消息,还记得适马波兰官网出现的那个“与适马一起推翻旧系统,解放已经到来”的海报吗?Photorumors最新消息称,原来这是适马周四将公布的一个新服务的广告语,适马这项新服务将为用户免费更换适马镜头卡口,换句话说如果你要换“门”,至少可以不用出掉手里的适马镜头,当然新系统需要是适马镜头已经覆盖的。


果然,期望值不能高。dpxm还没怎么卖,钱还没赚够呢。先把跑焦机身性能解决了再说,都洗洗睡吧
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[48 楼] 天溢 [泡菜]
13-7-31 14:04
gg889r 发表于 2013-7-31 04:30
所见略同 哈哈

老兄有些概念 我多年前  在个DX的帖子内  天马行空过

/forum-viewthread-tid-678146-page-1-ordertype-1-authorid-556683.html

也许未来有可能吧   

就像 上个世纪初貌似20~30年代的科幻小说    什么 发明载人火箭   什么 上月球   被当时候科学家嘲笑      但后来确实实现了

也许吧 就让时间来证明一切吧

只是不知道我们  不到的百年生命时间       是否能盼到那一天

相对地球几十亿年   生命 如烟花般的昙花一现   微小的生命   却又无明的  承受了各种喜怒哀悲欢情仇

也许吧  在我相对  极为有限的时间空间之下  的理解力   给我 更先进的X3就行了   不论 适马 索家 富士 C家
顶!
[47 楼] 两桶油吃屎 [泡菜]
13-7-31 12:20
那拍完等储存好不慢死人了
[46 楼] xieqiao [泡菜]
13-7-31 12:14
适马周四或将推出免费更换镜头卡口服务
2013年07月31日 09:49   

  新浪数码讯 7月31日上午消息,还记得适马波兰官网出现的那个“与适马一起推翻旧系统,解放已经到来”的海报吗?Photorumors最新消息称,原来这是适马周四将公布的一个新服务的广告语,适马这项新服务将为用户免费更换适马镜头卡口,换句话说如果你要换“门”,至少可以不用出掉手里的适马镜头,当然新系统需要是适马镜头已经覆盖的。
[45 楼] X3er [资深泡菜]
13-7-31 11:52
arthur999 发表于 2013-7-31 10:52
一直是看了老X3,分辨率不过瘾;看了美林,色彩不过瘾;看来很快就有解了。

完全赞同,呵呵,看着老X3的片子就想,这要是新X3的分辨率就好了,可是对美林又不甘心。
全画幅X3,一定要搞大像素才好。2000万就足够了,千万别弄二块美林半幅拼合成一块。
[44 楼] arthur999 [资深泡菜]
13-7-31 10:57
X3er 发表于 2013-7-31 10:39
要是不出X3全画幅,敲掉马有牙兄弟的牙
是不是真的啊,我有点兴奋了。不过适马应该抢在C家前面发布,同时,估计定价不会太高,因为后面还有几只黄雀正准备出招了。
[43 楼] arthur999 [资深泡菜]
13-7-31 10:52
一直是看了老X3,分辨率不过瘾;看了美林,色彩不过瘾;看来很快就有解了。