莱卡M，富士XM1&松下GX7疯狂大比拼

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[1 楼] feixianglyw [泡菜] 13-10-7 10:31 如题，链接地址如下，来自国外摄影师Steve huff。 http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2013/10/03/crazy-comparison-leica-m-240-fuji-x-m1-and-panasonic-gx7-part-1/
[22 楼] xfmb129 [泡菜] 13-10-16 21:56 雪丁哥发表于 2013-10-7 19:10 一个自家厨房开测评的小人物，有什么可信性？和论坛二流子有什么不同？一个当年连xtrans当时不能用LR解析都不知道的无知之辈有什么可信性？用不同的、差别很大的镜头却评价相机本身、还能得出结论，这就不是个脑袋健康的二流子！连他自己不连贯的蹩脚写作水平都这样说： BTW, to those who say I hate Fuji, I do not. The fuji X100 and X100s are some of the best cameras you can get and the X100s focuses as a Fuji should. It is one that Fuji improved and they did a great job. They need to do this in a new X-Pro 2 and X-E2 and then we will be getting somewhere. 被小底烂画质的丑名压了许久的m43卖家，终于找到救命稻草了？可惜了这根稻草！呵呵，呵呵呵，呵呵呵呵。还是看看正规专业的dpreview吧，至少人家要为自己的结论负责，而不像这个二流子stevehuff可以胡说八道不顾后果还没有任何损失，XM1画质打死m43全家，超出很多！不出意料的话GX7测评出来一样被揍死，XM1测光和对焦准确性干死GH3，不低于任何m43小底机要是这样，画质上徕卡M是不是也能拍死富士啊，除了画质能不能说点别的。。。。这次真心看烦了。。。。
[21 楼] lschy [泡菜] 13-10-16 21:50 雪丁狗是没用过其它机器，它当然不知道别家的好，键盘摄影师！本帖由Windows Phone客户端发布
[20 楼] ikinari [资深泡菜] 13-10-7 22:34
[19 楼] 何时何地 [资深泡菜] 13-10-7 22:19 雪丁哥发表于 2013-10-7 19:10 一个自家厨房开测评的小人物，有什么可信性？和论坛二流子有什么不同？一个当年连xtrans当时不能用LR解析都不知道的无知之辈有什么可信性？用不同的、差别很大的镜头却评价相机本身、还能得出结论，这就不是个脑袋健康的二流子！连他自己不连贯的蹩脚写作水平都这样说： BTW, to those who say I hate Fuji, I do not. The fuji X100 and X100s are some of the best cameras you can get and the X100s focuses as a Fuji should. It is one that Fuji improved and they did a great job. They need to do this in a new X-Pro 2 and X-E2 and then we will be getting somewhere. 被小底烂画质的丑名压了许久的m43卖家，终于找到救命稻草了？可惜了这根稻草！呵呵，呵呵呵，呵呵呵呵。还是看看正规专业的dpreview吧，至少人家要为自己的结论负责，而不像这个二流子stevehuff可以胡说八道不顾后果还没有任何损失，XM1画质打死m43全家，超出很多！不出意料的话GX7测评出来一样被揍死，XM1测光和对焦准确性干死GH3，不低于任何m43小底机此狗跟纯种狗有的一拼。
[18 楼] ujoe [泡菜] 13-10-7 21:02 雪丁哥发表于 2013-10-7 19:10 一个自家厨房开测评的小人物，有什么可信性？和论坛二流子有什么不同？一个当年连xtrans当时不能用LR解析都不知道的无知之辈有什么可信性？用不同的、差别很大的镜头却评价相机本身、还能得出结论，这就不是个脑袋健康的二流子！连他自己不连贯的蹩脚写作水平都这样说： BTW, to those who say I hate Fuji, I do not. The fuji X100 and X100s are some of the best cameras you can get and the X100s focuses as a Fuji should. It is one that Fuji improved and they did a great job. They need to do this in a new X-Pro 2 and X-E2 and then we will be getting somewhere. 被小底烂画质的丑名压了许久的m43卖家，终于找到救命稻草了？可惜了这根稻草！呵呵，呵呵呵，呵呵呵呵。还是看看正规专业的dpreview吧，至少人家要为自己的结论负责，而不像这个二流子stevehuff可以胡说八道不顾后果还没有任何损失，XM1画质打死m43全家，超出很多！不出意料的话GX7测评出来一样被揍死，XM1测光和对焦准确性干死GH3，不低于任何m43小底机只會玩數字遊戲和文字遊戲，而不會按快門的傻狗
[17 楼] ujoe [泡菜] 13-10-7 20:58 feixianglyw 发表于 2013-10-7 20:32 你除了只会引用这个图还能做点别的不？你手上有哪个富士机器？ XM1底比M43大确实是，X-trans的优点也没人否认，可是这能代表什么呢？只能说画质比M43好一点而已！不然底就白大了那么多啦！说到对焦，富士的对焦什么时候能秒M43了？准确性富士是出了名的跑焦。说到Stevehuff，当然他是一家之言，可是他的说法也代表着大多数人的心声，至少跟我的认识也是一样的。看來兄弟早就把槍上好膛，隨時對雪丁狗開槍
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[15 楼] feixianglyw [泡菜] 13-10-7 20:32 雪丁哥发表于 2013-10-7 19:10 一个自家厨房开测评的小人物，有什么可信性？和论坛二流子有什么不同？一个当年连xtrans当时不能用LR解析都不知道的无知之辈有什么可信性？用不同的、差别很大的镜头却评价相机本身、还能得出结论，这就不是个脑袋健康的二流子！连他自己不连贯的蹩脚写作水平都这样说： BTW, to those who say I hate Fuji, I do not. The fuji X100 and X100s are some of the best cameras you can get and the X100s focuses as a Fuji should. It is one that Fuji improved and they did a great job. They need to do this in a new X-Pro 2 and X-E2 and then we will be getting somewhere. 被小底烂画质的丑名压了许久的m43卖家，终于找到救命稻草了？可惜了这根稻草！呵呵，呵呵呵，呵呵呵呵。还是看看正规专业的dpreview吧，至少人家要为自己的结论负责，而不像这个二流子stevehuff可以胡说八道不顾后果还没有任何损失，XM1画质打死m43全家，超出很多！不出意料的话GX7测评出来一样被揍死，XM1测光和对焦准确性干死GH3，不低于任何m43小底机你除了只会引用这个图还能做点别的不？你手上有哪个富士机器？ XM1底比M43大确实是，X-trans的优点也没人否认，可是这能代表什么呢？只能说画质比M43好一点而已！不然底就白大了那么多啦！说到对焦，富士的对焦什么时候能秒M43了？准确性富士是出了名的跑焦。说到Stevehuff，当然他是一家之言，可是他的说法也代表着大多数人的心声，至少跟我的认识也是一样的。
[14 楼] 定圈迷情 [泡菜] 13-10-7 20:23 大概19点发。。。
[13 楼] 雪丁哥 [泡菜] 13-10-7 19:10 一个自家厨房开测评的小人物，有什么可信性？和论坛二流子有什么不同？一个当年连xtrans当时不能用LR解析都不知道的无知之辈有什么可信性？用不同的、差别很大的镜头却评价相机本身、还能得出结论，这就不是个脑袋健康的二流子！连他自己不连贯的蹩脚写作水平都这样说： BTW, to those who say I hate Fuji, I do not. The fuji X100 and X100s are some of the best cameras you can get and the X100s focuses as a Fuji should. It is one that Fuji improved and they did a great job. They need to do this in a new X-Pro 2 and X-E2 and then we will be getting somewhere. 被小底烂画质的丑名压了许久的m43卖家，终于找到救命稻草了？可惜了这根稻草！呵呵，呵呵呵，呵呵呵呵。还是看看正规专业的dpreview吧，至少人家要为自己的结论负责，而不像这个二流子stevehuff可以胡说八道不顾后果还没有任何损失，XM1画质打死m43全家，超出很多！不出意料的话GX7测评出来一样被揍死，XM1测光和对焦准确性干死GH3，不低于任何m43小底机本帖最后由雪丁哥于 2013-10-7 19:19 编辑
[12 楼] feixianglyw [泡菜] 13-10-7 18:09 Steve眼里的富士微单,应该不用翻译了吧... So to me, Micro 4/3 is closer to being the new modern day Leica than Fuji. I see the Fuji X IC Bodies as an immature imitation in looks alone. Maybe in 2-3 more years but today? No. (X100s is a different story). The X-M1 is an odd camera. BAD ergonomics with big lenses on a think tiny body with dodgy AF, no EVF, cheap feel, and other odd ball things going on with it. A departure from the X-Pro 1 and X-E1 for sure, and not sure why. Next to the GX7 set, the X-M1 FEELS like a toy made for a child while the GX7 FEELS like a tool made for a photographer. Sounds harsh but I am telling you my honest opinions after shooting and handling all three of these. Of course the Leica is in another league when it comes to build and feel as it should be. The Fuji also had the worst color as the pedal in the photo is closest to the Leica and Panasonic. The Fuji is quite a bit off so I am hoping Fuji ups their game in 2014 with something that takes it all 3 steps up.
[11 楼] 何时何地 [资深泡菜] 13-10-7 17:50 狗狗一定会来的： “ Leica M wins this one for me in IQ and camera build, feel, usability. GX7 comes in 2nd with great usability, decent build and nice IQ with that Voigtlander lens. Plenty of “Bokeh” for my tastes. I highly recommend the 25 0.95. Fuji X-M1 comes in last for build (feels cheap) and IQ and usability due to no EVF, slow and sometimes inaccurate AF ... The CLEAR winner at ISO 3200 is the Leica – richness, color, noise..all beats the other three. The Fuji is next in line with a sharp image (all were shot at f/8 on a tripod) and some noise where the Micro 4/3 are still looking good IMO and up there with many APS-C cameras. ” 本帖最后由何时何地于 2013-10-7 18:04 编辑
[10 楼] feixianglyw [泡菜] 13-10-7 13:47 感谢无爱无忧同学,已经把三者的锐度发色对比贴过来.我们再看高ISO表现. 同一设定ISO3200,F8,机内降噪关闭。对比时Steve有把奥巴EM1一起。
[9 楼] feixianglyw [泡菜] 13-10-7 13:40 首先看比拼的配置镜头,都是标头. 1. The Leica M 240 and Leica 50 Summilux ASPH 1.4 Lens – Total Value: $11,000 US dollars. – 50mm true FOV 2. The Fuji X-M1 and Zeiss 32 1.8 Touit Lens – Total Value: $1,600 US Dollars – 50mm equivalent 3. The Panasonic GX7 and Voigtlander 25 0.95 Lens – Total Value – $1,900 US Dollars – 50mm equivalent
[8 楼] 无爱无忧 [泡菜] 13-10-7 13:37
[7 楼] ss529 [资深泡菜] 13-10-7 13:20 雪丁狗一定会来的
[6 楼] gongker [泡菜] 13-10-7 11:33 兄弟辛苦了，这个很有价值，最近打算双机，一变一定，也在考虑弄个富士的玩玩，就是镜头貌似比M4/3的还贵本帖由安卓客户端发布
[5 楼] AntonWong [泡菜] 13-10-7 11:27 我就觉得富士每一代的新机白平衡都比上一代更绿。
[4 楼] feixianglyw [泡菜] 13-10-7 11:01 ujoe 发表于 2013-10-7 10:35 看来兄弟你是来挑戰雪丁狗啊咱不着谁也不惹谁，看到这个不错，转过来的! 谁爱来就来。。。稍后会把他的比拼结果集感受搬过来。
[3 楼] 爱诗爱曲艺 [泡菜] 13-10-7 10:40 这东西可能会把某人引来
[2 楼] ujoe [泡菜] 13-10-7 10:35 看来兄弟你是来挑戰雪丁狗啊