80--200 F2.8D 的问题。
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[1 楼] bulick [陈年泡菜]
01-2-3 19:18
俺要问一个问题,AF-S 80--200 F2.8D IF-ED 和AF 80--200 F2.8 ED 从价格上相差悬殊,其中AF-S 80--200 F2.8D IF-ED内嵌5片ED玻璃镜片,分别是第2,3,10,11,14片.而AF 80--200 F2.8 ED仅有3片ED玻璃,分别是第2,3,12片.
  请用过此头的各路英雄说说这两款镜头的差距到底有多大?
[6 楼] 馅饼 [数码相机版主]
01-2-16 10:49
nikon 180F2.8ed 到底啥地方好?
有人说不长不短的

能贴上两张图吗?
LongVoyage  你用180决的如何?
[5 楼] Diesel [陈年泡菜]
01-2-16 10:37
原本由 LongVoyage 发表
今天想抬一扛
,不知道80-200F2.8ED NEW 的像质优秀是哪里发了证书还是怎的,好象没有商量余地的一说就是优秀.

以前有两次有人还要用它来打击180F2.8,我一般都不说啥的引用一个REVIEW,结果我一"摘录",就没人回贴了,搞的我也搞不清楚他们倒低咋想.

再次摘录:
A Word About Reviews
A review is an opinion. Ask 1000 people to do a review and you'll get 1000 different opinions. This review is my opinion. I base my opinion on my experience. I don't base my opinions on the results of others. I am unbiased. I owe no company my loyalty. Nobody is paying me to form my opinion. Before you believe anything you read in print, including this review, you must first ask yourself, why did this person write this review? I'll say it very boldly: reviews you read in magazines are bullshit. These people don't pay for the equipment with their own money. They don't make their living taking pictures; they make their living writing magazine articles. They aren't about to risk pissing off a manufacturer by writing an unfavorable review. They never even use the equipment long enough to know anything about it anyway. Frankly, I don't know why the hell anyone would believe a word these morons say; there isn't a shred of truth in anything they write. If you want an honest review, ask someone who bought the equipment with their own hard-earned cash. Ask someone who uses this equipment every day. Ask someone who has nothing to gain or lose by telling you the truth. I've been using Nikon equipment for more than 20 years. In this time, I've owned just about every body, and many of their lenses. Unlike a salesman, I have no interest in lying to you. The reviews I give below are my honest opinions based on many years of using the equipment. When I say something is great, it really is. Nikon equipment worth owning is colored green below. When something sucks, you can damned well bet I'll let you know. Stuff that Nikon should be ashamed of is colored red below. You can find equipment reviews by many other photographers if you search the Internet. I strongly suggest you read as many as you can. Put your trust in photographers who use the gear, not in morons who make their living trying to scam you.
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Nikon 180mm f2.8 EDAF Lens This is a totally awesome lens, one of the best Nikon has ever made. Razor sharp, fairly small and lightweight. Even when shot wide open, it outperforms anything else out there. You should run out and buy one of these now. They really are
that good.

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Nikon 80-200mm f2.8 EDAF (non-D) Lens This old buzzard is one awesome lens. I used to own the non-D version, which I used for many years. It was great, but the lack of a tripod collar tore the hell out of the bayonet on my F4. After 10 years, the idiots at Nikon finally realized it needed a tripod collar, so they added one. Supposedly, they didn't change the optics, but you'd never prove that by me. The new D version sucks. The old one was the sharpest zoom lens I've ever used. It outperformed most Nikon primes in its range except the 85/1.4 & 180/2.8. Better than 60 percent of my shots were taken with this lens. Like an idiot, I thought the new version would be just as good, but I should have known nothing Nikon makes today is worth owning.

Nikon 80-200mm f2.8 EDAF-D (w/ collar) Lens This lens has problems. As a 10 year owner of the old AF version, I thought there would be no difference. Boy was I ever wrong. The newer one is mechanically nice, and the tripod collar works quite well. The big problem is sharpness. This lens really sucks when wide open at the 200mm end. Everything is soft and fuzzy. I have no idea why this is, but I do know my old version was tack sharp wide open at all focal lengths. Leave it to Nikon to screw up a good thing. I'm not the only one who has noticed this either.

Nikon 80-200mm f2.8 AF-S (w/ collar) Lens This lens is even worse than the 35-70/2.8 I bitch about above. Although I was never stupid enough to buy one, one of my most trusted friends (a pro) did. He got so pissed off over the poor performance of this lens that he bailed on Nikon and switched to Canon. The main problem with this lens is vignetting. He showed me his results and let me play with this lens. Here's an experiment for you: take this lens, open it up to f2.8, point it straight up into the blue sky and take a shot. When the slide comes back, you'll see terrible fall-off in the corners (they're at least a full stop darker than the rest), and a huge white donut in the center (probably 2 stops lighter than the rest). What the hell is Nikon doing? They had a great thing with the oldest 80-200/2.8 AF lens. Can they do nothing right these days?


我真为此事犯愁呢, 为此特意想去买不带脚架环的那款(二手), 可是不带脚架环上脚架太那个了, 看上去就不稳. 哪为DX给说说.
[4 楼] lymex [陈年泡菜]
01-2-15 21:37
我选择了非-S。
后来看到评价:非-S头对100-150mm优化,S头对200mm优化。
难怪我在200mm试拍效果不理想
[3 楼] bulick [陈年泡菜]
01-2-4 18:06
两款镜头的差距到底有多大?
[2 楼] lymex [陈年泡菜]
01-2-3 23:17
俺可没用过,不过也想买。
国外有个站点,Nikon的在下面:
http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-one-category?topic_id=23&category=Nikon
有很多讨论80-200/2.8的,俺看了一晚上,强烈推荐。
从他们的论点上看,成像差别几乎没有,只是对焦速度和方便性上
有差别。