国外摄影杂志和影友对Minolta 24-105D的评价
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[1 楼] 丁丁冬冬 [泡菜]
01-2-26 17:24

Popular Photography (February 2001)

24mm: 0.45% barrel, "minimal"
35mm: [not reported]
70mm: 0.75% pincushion, "slight"
105mm: 0.85% pincushion, "slight"

Chasseurs d'Images (October 2000)

24mm: 1.3% barrel, "genante" (= troublesome)
35mm: pincushion, "negligeable" (= negligible)
70mm: 0.7% pincushion, "sensible" (= noticable)
105mm: 0.9% pincushion, "tres sensible" (= very noticable)

以下是两个对Sharon提出有关24-105D问题的回复:

1.Sharon,if you choose the 24-105 now, I'll buy it from you used when you upgrade to a 28-70/2.8 D! I just read the Popular Photography test. They measured only .45% barrel distortion at 24mm, .75% pincushion at 70mm, and .85% pincushion at 105mm. That's better than the Canon 28-105 or 28-135. Perhaps the 24-105's distortion is wavy as with the 24-85 I tested (yuck!), but PopPhoto didn't say so. Sharpness (lines/mm) is excellent or very good almost everywhere, especially at wider apertures (below f/16). Close focus down to 46cm is best using f/11 at 70 and 105mm.
Because of its light weight (395g), compact length (69mm) for minimal flash interference, and 24-28 range, I find this new Minolta the most attractive standard lens on the market. The Canon 28-135 IS comes close, but 105-135 isn't as much as it seems, and IS would be more useful on a longer lens.

2.Sharon, I wouldn't recommend buying the Minolta 28-70/2.8 right now. Minolta is expected to announce new lenses this winter, and the 28-70/2.8 will probably be updated, it being slow autofocusing and non-D. Foto Magazin tested the new 24-105 and gave it 5 stars (top rating); their sample had 2.7% barrel distortion at 24mm and 1.3% pincushion at 105mm. Large-range zooms can be very sharp but often suffer from distortion. Chasseur d'Images said the 24-105 was somewhat soft at the long end.

Have you checked out the Tokina 28-80/2.8 yet? At f/5.6 it produced "A" quality 20x enlargements across its entire range, according to Popular Photography's SQF test, although 50/2.8 was "F". Its worst distortion was .5% pincushion at 80mm.

For a lightweight lens the Minolta 24-50/4 (non-D) is very sharp and virtually distortion-free, though not very fast or long range.

附:我基本决定进24-105D,尽管24-85的确不错。
以后想添 85F1.4G(D) 100-300(D)
Xi老,您觉得如何。

[14 楼] sonata [资深泡菜]
01-2-27 21:11
呵呵,cheji和xi老的争论也正是m家最难做决定的事

上了24-105后,
究竟是80-200G
还是100-300+85/1.4G+100m(或者后两者选一)搭建系统的问题。

我的一个玩canon的朋友说他基本上是xxb+28-135is+20/2.8占到所有拍摄的98%
xxb最多,超过一半,其次28-135,is很爽,20没有的想用的时候会觉得特别扭。特点是不拍微距。

我是一定要进m家的了。虽然还没入,可是已经思前想后好几个月了。
m家没有is头,100-300比c家的好,80-200比xb还贵,而且评价好像也不如c(photodo),所以就让人难选了。

cheji是爱拍人像吧?(lp一定很pp)而且和其他厂家比,确实这只头性价比高
xi老自称拍mm拍出过麻烦,引来诸多口水(详见www.xitek.com,之后只拍小孩),所以觉得使用率不高
(胡乱揣测)
呵呵,说来说去,我觉得要是非在北京南宁2条道路中选一条只能看各人爱拍啥了。

话说回来,c也难选,坛子里最多的还不就是xb, xxb, xh选择的讨论。
[13 楼] 伯齐 [资深泡菜]
01-2-27 20:44
  明明是讨论24-105mm,"安抓"跑到85跟80-200的头上?
  个人看法,我是比较喜欢用85拍人,因我的对象一般是民女而非MODEL,需要比较多的沟通,0.85公尺的距离比1.8公尺要强.一般来说,拍人时我是二头都带着,但最后都是用85的多.以上是个人习慣,与二头的素质没关.
[12 楼] 丁丁冬冬 [泡菜]
01-2-27 19:57
感谢Xi老和Cheji早上七、八点钟就起来“做作业”,敬业!

80-200/2.8或100/2.8尽管的的确确不错,但和85F1.4差两档光圈。
在弱光线下能带来很大的灵活性。

既然“85/1.4都是在酒饱饭足后才考虑的”,请教各位DX,
不想使用闪光灯,三角架又不方便时,各位时如何处理这种室内弱光场合的?除了使用高速片,有何妙法?

85/1.4不带D的4.7K,比带D的低1.5k左右,还是挺有诱惑的。
[11 楼] xitek [陈年泡菜]
01-2-27 13:36
哇!RK弄了支D头!

俺与Cheji的分歧在性能价格比上,俺认为任何家的85/1.4都是在酒饱饭足后才考虑的,在没有它之前可以用80-200/2.8或100/2.8来代替,特别是在没有100/2.8M之前不要考虑85/1.4,现在的D款要6K多点了。
[10 楼] RK [泡菜]
01-2-27 13:28
Minolta AF 85mm f/1.4 G (D) 可是个好头,我上个星期才买到手,以前我使用Tamron的那只微距头作人物摄影的,其实很满意它的质量,但是M 85mm头的质量可是不比不知道啊。

D 头配D闪光灯,人物肤色还原很好!
[9 楼] cheji [陈年泡菜]
01-2-27 12:52
怎么会哪……

我会团结在Xitek为首到网友周围(请保持距离,南宁到北京)

高举网络摄影联盟伟大旗帜(限高不能高过东方明珠电视塔)

网络联盟巨龙正在腾飞(限速……Xi老喜欢酒后驾驶……)



[8 楼] 700si [资深泡菜]
01-2-27 12:22
两个巨头干起来了,呵呵,精彩精彩!
[7 楼] cheji [陈年泡菜]
01-2-27 08:30
80-200是好头,但是不值得购买,性价比比较低。如果是为了拍照……

[6 楼] xitek [陈年泡菜]
01-2-27 07:37
丁冬:主要是价格问题,80-200/2.8的用途远胜于85头,f/2.8在拍摄人像时也是具有优势的,拍摄GF、家人等足够足够,玩85头主要是它的f/1.4,但代价是6K,如果买80-200,加个KENKO 2X,就很好使用了。
[5 楼] 丁丁冬冬 [泡菜]
01-2-26 19:54
谢谢Xi老的建议。
我选85F1.4的初衷是看中她的多用途。
既可以拍人像(尤其是逆光时,我对逆光人像有一种特殊的偏好,可能是我以前seagull 28-80很少成功。),又是大光圈,室内光线弱,又不想用闪光是特别有用。
50mmF1.4虽然价格低一半还多,但是我觉得不长不短,拍北京的各种美展,车展估计应付不了(也许是我标头用的不好)。
我是从以上两个角度考虑的,因为除了旅游摄影,给我的家人、GF拍照和为我喜欢的各种展出拍照是我平时最常用的。

您说“85头是在其他镜头配得差不多时才考虑的。”
Xi老,Cheji和各位DX,如果不选 85F1.4,有无照顾到以上因素比较好的选择。

再说100-300,我以前有MD口的Kiron的80-200F4.5,感觉焦段不够用。拍演唱会,海豚表演不够长。
我在一本摄影书上看到,副厂适马(或其它厂)好像有1.4×或2×的MD口镜头转AF机身的转接环。如果对成象要求不高,可否可以考虑,把原来的80-200用上。

请点拨,谢谢各位。
[4 楼] 枯影 [资深泡菜]
01-2-26 18:09
[3 楼] 枯影 [资深泡菜]
01-2-26 17:57
Editorial Reviews
Product Description
The Minolta Maxxum AF 24-105mm f3.5 to f4.5 D series zoom lens provides excellent focusing operation and high-quality image results throughout the zooming range. Its aspheric lenses help correct spherical aberration and reduce sagittal flare and coma. The large, petal-type lens hood shields the lens from extraneous light. The unique Minolta circular aperture diaphragm is designed for more natural-looking backgrounds at wider apertures. In combination with the Maxxum 7 camera, the built-in distance encoder on this lens supports highly accurate ADI (Advance Distance Integration) flash metering by providing precise distance information.
The Maxxum AF lens series is designed to offer superb operation for both auto and manual focusing. During autofocusing, photographers can hold the camera in good balance and concentrate on framing, thanks to Minolta's Auto Clutch mechanism, which does not rotate the focusing ring during AF drive. In manual focusing, the wide ring rotates smoothly and is easy to control. The overall result is a supercompact lens that produces high-quality images throughout its zooming range.
[2 楼] xitek [陈年泡菜]
01-2-26 17:57
不错,看来这支24-105是可以考虑的。不过俺不建议现在上85头,应该将85+100-300的钱用来买80-200G的新款,按说也应该快出来了。85头是在其他镜头配得差不多时才考虑的,属于比较多余的镜头。