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[2323 楼] 亚瑟李 [资深泡菜]
12-8-16 19:47
shenshenshen 发表于 2012-8-16 08:27
这种新闻快速拍法未必用格拉芙45了。一个马没牙67。足以。那个时代没有马67.甚至135都玄。逼得用这种笨家伙手持半估焦。
换如今。记者们不用数码的是孙子!!!!
什么时代拍什么题材用什么。没必要自找罪受。风光建筑。格拉芙甚至不如沙木尼。新闻快拍,还是耍120都比它强。6008原比它清晰快速。
前提是黑白胶片都进暗房。


您说的的确是现实。现在咱们使格拉菲玩快拍,并不是打算以职业快拍新闻为生,而更多的是在体验45快拍应用文化,纯属自愿,对不?,您瞧见没有,隔壁人新45快拍“手扶拖拉机”都卖到第2茬了都,哈哈~~没事儿的。

“前提是黑白胶片都进暗房”-----而且不管你折腾啥尺寸机器,只要是玩黑白胶片,想要好的效果,进暗房玩真照片则是不需哈,介绝对是客观规律来的,楼下贴的那些LIFE片就是力证。

[2322 楼] shenshenshen [陈年泡菜]
12-8-16 08:27
亚瑟李 发表于 2012-8-12 20:38
45快拍若想达到前辈的实践水平,总觉着有必要打破咱们已经建立的,小型机器抓拍的思维定势来干才成。
谢谢收看俺搜的LIFE档案照片!。
这种新闻快速拍法未必用格拉芙45了。一个马没牙67。足以。那个时代没有马67.甚至135都玄。逼得用这种笨家伙手持半估焦。
换如今。记者们不用数码的是孙子!!!!
什么时代拍什么题材用什么。没必要自找罪受。风光建筑。格拉芙甚至不如沙木尼。新闻快拍,还是耍120都比它强。6008原比它清晰快速。
前提是黑白胶片都进暗房。
[2321 楼] 亚瑟李 [资深泡菜]
12-8-16 06:53
Very foggy mood shot including chestnut trees.
Location: Paris, France
Date taken: 1953
Photographer: Thomas D. Mcavoy
Size: 1031 x 1280 pixels (14.3 x 17.8 inches)
[2320 楼] 亚瑟李 [资深泡菜]
12-8-16 06:46
A worker opening up a pipeline to let the oil flow.
Location: Colombia
Date taken: 1939
Photographer: Thomas D. Mcavoy
Size: 1257 x 1280 pixels (17.5 x 17.8 inches)
[2319 楼] 亚瑟李 [资深泡菜]
12-8-16 06:37
Lingerie
Stroboscopic image of model clad in girdle, bra, stockings & negligee seated at dressing table & moving to pick up slippers.

Location: New York, NY, US
Date taken: 1945
Photographer: Gjon Mili
Size: 1280 x 970 pixels (17.8 x 13.5 inches)
[2318 楼] 亚瑟李 [资深泡菜]
12-8-15 06:30
Errol Flynn
Actor Errol Flynn holding a drink in his lap while relaxing on a reclining chair on the deck of a boat passing beside a mountain.

Date taken: 1942
Photographer: Peter Stackpole
Size: 1280 x 982 pixels (17.8 x 13.6 inches)
[2317 楼] 亚瑟李 [资深泡菜]
12-8-15 06:29
Judith Barrett
Location: US
Date taken: 1939
Photographer: Peter Stackpole
Size: 1021 x 1280 pixels (14.2 x 17.8 inches)
[2316 楼] 亚瑟李 [资深泡菜]
12-8-15 06:28
Bing Crosby & Eddie Condon
Singer Bing Crosby rehearsing with saxophonist Bud Freeman at Eddie Condon's apartment.

Location: New York, NY, US
Date taken: 1946
Photographer: Gjon Mili
Size: 993 x 1280 pixels (13.8 x 17.8 inches)
[2315 楼] 亚瑟李 [资深泡菜]
12-8-15 06:27
Bing Crosby & Eddie Condon
Singer Bing Crosby with nightclub owner Eddie Condon during rehearsal at Condon's apartment.

Location: New York, NY, US
Date taken: 1946
Photographer: Gjon Mili
Size: 1041 x 1280 pixels (14.5 x 17.8 inches)
[2314 楼] 亚瑟李 [资深泡菜]
12-8-15 06:24
离机闪一定要用起来哈。

Wright- Macmahon Secretary School
Date taken: January 1951
Photographer: Peter Stackpole , Loomis Dean
Size: 1254 x 1280 pixels (17.4 x 17.8 inches)
[2313 楼] 亚瑟李 [资深泡菜]
12-8-14 22:33
2 year old, Mary Frances Crosby, daughter of Bing Crosby, as she won her Red Cross Merit Badge for beginner swimmers.
Location: US
Date taken: 1962
Photographer: Allan Grant
Size: 907 x 1280 pixels (12.6 x 17.8 inches)
[2312 楼] 亚瑟李 [资深泡菜]
12-8-14 20:48
这几张切格瓦拉拍地挺传神的,135机器所为,贴上来和45的对比一下:

Cuban Crisis
Cuban rebel Ernesto "Che" Guevara w. lit cigar clenched between his teeth & his left arm in a sling.

Location: Havana, Cuba
Date taken: January 7, 1959
Photographer: Joseph Scherschel
Size: 852 x 1280 pixels (11.8 x 17.8 inches)
Cuban rebel Ernesto "Che" Guevara w. his left arm in a sling.
Location: Havana, Cuba
Date taken: January 7, 1959
Photographer: Joseph Scherschel
Size: 881 x 1280 pixels (12.2 x 17.8 inches)
Cuban Crisis
Cuban rebel Ernesto "Che" Guevara w. lit cigar clenched between his teeth & his left arm in a sling, talking w. unseen person.

Location: Havana, Cuba
Date taken: January 7, 1959
Photographer: Joseph Scherschel
Size: 846 x 1280 pixels (11.8 x 17.8 inches)
Cuban Crisis
Cuban rebel Ernesto "Che" Guevara w. his left arm in a sling.

Location: Havana, Cuba
Date taken: January 7, 1959
Photographer: Joseph Scherschel
Size: 835 x 1280 pixels (11.6 x 17.8 inches)
[2311 楼] 亚瑟李 [资深泡菜]
12-8-14 20:40
Bing Crosby
Singer/actor Bing Crosby sporting hat with a zebra-striped band comprised of feathers.

Location: Hollywood, CA, US
Date taken: June 1945
Photographer: John Florea
Size: 976 x 1280 pixels (13.6 x 17.8 inches)
[2310 楼] 亚瑟李 [资深泡菜]
12-8-14 20:38
General En-Lai Chou wearing suit and tie.
Location: China
Date taken: December 1946
Photographer: John Florea
Size: 1025 x 1280 pixels (14.2 x 17.8 inches)
[2309 楼] 亚瑟李 [资深泡菜]
12-8-12 20:38
niz 发表于 2012-8-12 20:24
有快片当然好。

非常喜欢老兄在这里贴的老片,每天都要来翻阅几次,真真赏心悦目。


45快拍若想达到前辈的实践水平,总觉着有必要打破咱们已经建立的,小型机器抓拍的思维定势来干才成。
谢谢收看俺搜的LIFE档案照片!。
[2308 楼] niz [资深泡菜]
12-8-12 20:24
亚瑟李 发表于 2012-8-12 20:18
有F8 1/50s-1/100s,一般抓拍清晰度就有保障了。
可这个条件在一般45镜头环境下,还是比较罕见的,觉着常干45快拍的话,这快片还是必备地说。


有快片当然好。

非常喜欢老兄在这里贴的老片,每天都要来翻阅几次,真真赏心悦目。
[2307 楼] 亚瑟李 [资深泡菜]
12-8-12 20:18
niz 发表于 2012-8-12 20:04
这种光线,21定的胶片基本上F8 1/50s的组合就能做到,甚至可以1/100s,用不着快速片。而且为了拍摄这一组,明显这孩子骑了好几趟,非偶然抓拍,否则就算用的是六连发,换片的速度也来不及。


有F8 1/50s-1/100s,一般抓拍清晰度就有保障了。
可这个条件在一般45镜头环境下,还是比较罕见的,觉着常干45快拍的话,这快片还是必备地说。
[2306 楼] niz [资深泡菜]
12-8-12 20:04
李亚瑟 发表于 2012-8-12 13:42
等速等距跟踪连续拍片,分析得很有道理哈。除了抛出去的纸卷,从骑车孩子的动态定格清晰度来看,快门速度应不低于1/50S,想必是使用了400ASA快片的结果,否则也不可能这么清晰,就是用135机器,此时也得用快片地说。


这种光线,21定的胶片基本上F8 1/50s的组合就能做到,甚至可以1/100s,用不着快速片。而且为了拍摄这一组,明显这孩子骑了好几趟,非偶然抓拍,否则就算用的是六连发,换片的速度也来不及。
[2305 楼] 亚瑟李 [资深泡菜]
12-8-12 19:03
大幅拍的工作照

LIFE photographer Bernard Hoffman.
Location: US
Date taken: 1943
Photographer: Carl Mydans
Size: 1001 x 1280 pixels (13.9 x 17.8 inches)
[2304 楼] 亚瑟李 [资深泡菜]
12-8-12 19:01
在玩火棉胶湿版

Eastman Kodak Photographic Museum
Date taken: December 12, 1949
Photographer: Bernard Hoffman
Size: 1280 x 1223 pixels (17.8 x 17.0 inches)
[2303 楼] 李亚瑟 [资深泡菜]
12-8-12 13:42
kicvincent 发表于 2012-8-12 12:39
估计这位前辈是坐在另外一辆速度同步的自行车或汽车上抓拍的,近距离那几张难度高!

亚瑟李 发表于 2012-8-12 09:49
如图:
感觉那时的格机前辈们一定有办法高清定格玩抓拍的,难不成都使用快片啦?


Football Kids
Date taken: November 1950
Photographer: Francis Miller
Size: 1254 x 1280 pixels (17.4 x 17.8 inches)


等速等距跟踪连续拍片,分析得很有道理哈。除了抛出去的纸卷,从骑车孩子的动态定格清晰度来看,快门速度应不低于1/50S,想必是使用了400ASA快片的结果,否则也不可能这么清晰,就是用135机器,此时也得用快片地说。
[2302 楼] kicvincent [资深泡菜]
12-8-12 12:39
估计这位前辈是坐在另外一辆速度同步的自行车或汽车上抓拍的,近距离那几张难度高!

亚瑟李 发表于 2012-8-12 09:49
如图:
感觉那时的格机前辈们一定有办法高清定格玩抓拍的,难不成都使用快片啦?


Football Kids
Date taken: November 1950
Photographer: Francis Miller
Size: 1254 x 1280 pixels (17.4 x 17.8 inches)
[2301 楼] 亚瑟李 [资深泡菜]
12-8-12 09:56
此时,闪灯的有效照射距离是绝对够不着的,应为典型的格机日光抓拍,供各位参考:

Troops from Canda and Britain unloading from the front of the ship.
Location: Korea
Date taken: 1952
Photographer: Michael Rougier
Size: 977 x 1280 pixels (13.6 x 17.8 inches)
[2300 楼] 亚瑟李 [资深泡菜]
12-8-12 09:52
典型的闪灯新闻照。

Cr: Michael Rougier Marilyn Monroe
Date taken: 1955
Photographer: Michael Rougier
Size: 1083 x 1280 pixels (15.0 x 17.8 inches)
[2299 楼] 亚瑟李 [资深泡菜]
12-8-12 09:49
如图:
感觉那时的格机前辈们一定有办法高清定格玩抓拍的,难不成都使用快片啦?


Football Kids
Date taken: November 1950
Photographer: Francis Miller
Size: 1254 x 1280 pixels (17.4 x 17.8 inches)
[2298 楼] 亚瑟李 [资深泡菜]
12-8-11 09:56
Actors Gregory Peck (R), Jane Wyman (2R) and Claude Jarman Jr. (3R) performing in a scene for the movie "The Yearling."
Location: CA, US
Date taken: December 1947
Photographer: Walter Sanders
Size: 1053 x 1280 pixels (14.6 x 17.8 inches)
[2297 楼] 亚瑟李 [资深泡菜]
12-8-11 09:55
Actors Gregory Peck (rear, R), Jane Wyman (rear, C) and Claude Jarman Jr. (rear, 2R) performing in a scene for the movie "The Yearling."
Location: CA, US
Date taken: December 1947
Photographer: Walter Sanders
Size: 1166 x 1280 pixels (16.2 x 17.8 inches)
[2296 楼] 亚瑟李 [资深泡菜]
12-8-11 09:44
Actors Gregory Peck (R), Jane Wyman (L) and Claude Jarman Jr. performing in a scene for the movie "The Yearling."

Location: CA, US
Date taken: December 1947
Photographer: Walter Sanders
Size: 1280 x 1026 pixels (17.8 x 14.2 inches)
[2295 楼] 亚瑟李 [资深泡菜]
12-8-11 09:43
Actor Claude Jarman Jr. holding a baby deer for a scene in the movie "The Yearling."
Location: CA, US
Date taken: December 1947
Photographer: Walter Sanders
Size: 1080 x 1280 pixels (15.0 x 17.8 inches)
[2294 楼] 亚瑟李 [资深泡菜]
12-8-11 09:42
比如,拍类似拍剧照什么的,那简直就是爆强哈。

Actress Jane Wyman appearing in a scene for the movie "The Yearling."
Location: CA, US
Date taken: December 1947
Photographer: Walter Sanders
Size: 1025 x 1280 pixels (14.2 x 17.8 inches)