仙娜HY6数码后背系统机友俱乐部
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[256 楼] 沧海一笑
[老坛泡菜]
11-9-7 16:25
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[255 楼] 沧海一笑
[老坛泡菜]
11-9-7 16:23
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[254 楼] 沧海一笑
[老坛泡菜]
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[253 楼] 沧海一笑
[老坛泡菜]
11-9-7 16:21
带着hy6去了一趟希腊,意大利,感觉操控还行,就是有点小毛病,手并不灵和了。
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[252 楼] Xjmch
[泡菜]
11-9-4 23:05
新机子拍的片子
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[251 楼] gfl
[资深泡菜]
11-8-28 20:17
原文由 LindaandJames 在2011-08-27 13:04发表 数码时代机器不用就是最大的贬值,自己喜欢开心就好~~ |
[250 楼] 宝岛情缘
[陈年泡菜]
11-8-27 20:05
原文由 LindaandJames 在2011-08-27 13:04发表 好机好头好? |
[249 楼] LindaandJames
[资深泡菜]
11-8-27 13:04
中画幅目前的情况就像春秋战国时代,谁站错队伍,谁倒霉。
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[248 楼] 禄来一徽
[泡菜]
11-8-27 00:08
顶起来
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[247 楼] 爱玲珑楚楚
[泡菜]
11-8-26 10:58
赞一个
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[246 楼] 仙娜系统
[泡菜]
11-8-23 10:10
Available versions
各家hy6销售型号配搭: • Rolleiflex Hy6 with film back • Sinar Hy6 65 and s65r - 31 Megapixel (Kodak sensor 44x33 mm with microlenses) with 3" display Sinar Hy6-e75 - 33 Megapixel (Dalsa sensor 48x36 mm) with 2,2" display Sinar Hy6-e54 - 21 Megapixel (Dalsa sensor 48x36 mm) with 2,2" display Sinar Hy6-m54 - 22 Megapixel (Dalsa sensor 48x36,7 mm) without display • Leaf AFi 10 - 56 Megapixel (Dalsa sensor 56x36 mm) and AFi-II 10 with tilting LCD touch screen Leaf AFi 7 - 33 Megapixel (Dalsa sensor 48x36 mm) and AFi-II 7 with tilting LCD touch screen Leaf AFi 6 - 28 Megapixel (Dalsa sensor 44x33 mm) and AFi-II 6 with tilting LCD touch screen Leaf AFi 5 - 22 Megapixel (Dalsa sensor 48x36 mm) All Leaf digital backs come with a 3,5" display At Photokina 2008 Sinar and Leaf announced an agreement to expand their technological cooperation whereby Sinar was also offering Leaf's latest and technologically more advanced AFi-II digital backs with ultra wide sensors to its customers. However, this agreement became moot due to later developments (see further below). 在2008年Photokina里仙娜和利图同时宣布了他们的技术延伸合作---利图向仙娜提供最新最先进的AFi-II类的数码后背。但是这个合作协议在后来的发展中并无执行(往后看) • The Leaf Aptus-II 12 - 80 Megapixel (Dalsa sensor 53,7x40,3 mm) digital back will also be available in a Hy6/AFi mount in Q1 2011. 利图Aptus-II 12 8千万像素(Dalsa传感器,53.7x40.3 mm)数码后背,将在2011年1季提供Hy6/Afi卡口。 About Jenoptik 关于Jenoptik耶拿 Jenoptik specializes in photonics and mechatronics technologies. The company's core competency is putting light to use as an industrial tool. Jenoptik is active in the four areas of lasers, optics, sensors and mechatronics. Beyond its expertise in professional photography, Jenoptik is also active in the area of scientific photography. Through its subsidiary Robot Visual Systems, based near Düsseldorf (Germany), Jenoptik has been instrumental in successfully implementing the transition from wet film to digital technology for traffic safety technology. Thanks to its state-of-the-art digital cameras developed for use in traffic safety, Jenoptik has become one of the world's leading providers of this technology. Jenoptik acquired 100% of Sinar AG shares in 2007. 耶拿公司是专攻光电子和机电一体化技术。公司的核心能力是把光作为工作应用在工业上。Jenoptik活跃在四个领域:激光,光学,传感器和机电一体。除了在专业摄影领域,它还活跃在科学摄影领域。通过其附属的机器人视觉系统,附近的杜塞尔多夫(德国),德国耶拿已为为交通安全技术成功实施了从湿板过渡到数字技术。其为交通安全开发的技术先进的数码相机技术,令耶拿成为全球领先的技术提供者。在2007年Jenoptik取得100%的仙娜公司操控权。 |
[245 楼] gfl
[资深泡菜]
11-8-22 23:54
原文由 农夫视界 在2011-08-19 22:31发表 ![]() |
[244 楼] 仙娜系统
[泡菜]
11-8-22 12:02
前几天没时间。继续翻译后面的。三家的差异在这段会有比较。
Differences between the Hy6 / AFi variants Hy6与AFi各个之间的区别 • the Rolleiflex Hy6 is standard equiped with a film back (4560 or the newly developed 6060 model) and can be fitted with Sinar and Leaf digital backs. The Sinar and Leaf models are sold in bundles with their respective digital backs (but can also be used with the Rollei film backs). The Sinar and Leaf backs can be used on all Hy6 variants. • 禄莱Hy6套机标准是配备4560胶片背(或者最新开发的6060胶片背),并可以连接仙娜或者利图的数码后背。仙娜和利图则配备数码后背捆绑销售(但也可以使用禄莱胶片背)。 • a different power management. The Hy6 and AFi use different types of batteries, which are mechanically different and thus not interchangeable: the Hy6 uses connector pins, while the AFi has flat contacts. The Sinar batteries match the Sinar digital backs, and so do the Leaf ones. However, the Sinar back is powered through its own battery, while the Leaf AFi back can be operated from a single battery in the camera body, or with dual batteries for more autonomy (body+back). 不同的电源管理。Hy6和AFi使用不一样的电池:在物理结构上差异,所以不可互换。Hy6采用接触针,AFi使用平触面。仙娜电池还能使用在仙娜数码后背上,同样利图的也是。但是不一样的时候仙娜大部分后背都是需要独立供电,但是AFi就可以使用机身上电池供电,或者双电池(机身和后背各一个电池) • The digital back on the Leaf AFi is switched on and off through the main switch on the camera body. Sinar digital backs are less integrated and need to be switched on and off in addition to the main switch on the camera body. 利图AFi数码后背的开关可通过机身的开关控制。仙娜数码后背就集成度底点,需要单独开关(新款eSprit 65可由机身空制关闭) • Sinar offers an optional revolving adapter, which enables the digital back to be turned from landscape into portrait mode without unmounting. Earlier Leaf backs (such as first AFi series as well as the AFi-II 6) need to be unmounted and turned. The latest Leaf digital backs (AFi-II 7 and 10) offer a built-in Verto internal sensor rotation without unmounting the back. The 4560 film magazine needs to be unmounted and turned. A built-in protection only enables this to be carried out when the laminar drawslide is closed. 仙娜提供额外的旋转接环连接后背,提供横竖幅构图直接变化,无需拆装。早期的利图后背(如第一个AFi系列和AFi-II6)需要拆装来变换构图。最新的利图后背(AFi-II 7和10)提供内置的旋转装置,就可以不用拆装了恶。4560胶片背需要使用拆装来达成,但内置了保护装置,只有保护板落下后才能拆装变换。 • The Leaf Capture software is available in both Macintosh OS X and Windows versions, while Sinar CaptureShop and eXposure are only available for Macintosh OS X. The Leaf AFi is also supported by PhaseOne CaptureOne software as from v.5 (Macintosh and Windows versions). 利图软件Leaf Capture提供Mac OS X系统和Windows系统两个版本,仙娜提供CaptureShop and eXposure两款软件,都是Mac OSX系统的版本。利图AFi也能吃用飞思CaptureOne软件(同时提供Mac和windows版本) |
[243 楼] 农夫视界
[泡菜]
11-8-19 22:31
原文由 gfl 在2011-08-17 12:41发表 有钱淫! |
[242 楼] gfl
[资深泡菜]
11-8-17 12:41
原文由 沧海一笑 在2011-08-16 17:13发表 沧海一笑兄,我也只有4只镜头50、80、180、300外加1.4X。 |
[241 楼] 仙娜系统
[泡菜]
11-8-17 11:33
Differences between the Rolleiflex 6008 AF and the Hy6 / AFi
• no built-in motor drive, which reduces size and saves weight. Instead, the necessary motor drives are integrated in the film backs (not needed with digital backs) • an autofocus system with improved sensitivity (cross-type sensor instead of H-sensor), including with infrared beam in low light; focus-trap and focus-bracketing • a rechargeable power supply: a stock lithium-ion instead of a proprietary and more expensive NiCad battery • a permanent handgrip containing the battery and LCD screen, instead of a removable one. It can be clicked in 4 different positions for optimal use with different viewfinders • an LCD screen displaying the essential information • an integrated RGB sensor for automatic white balance in connection with digital backs • a better integration with digital backs (including EXIF data) • the ability to use Schneider AFD lenses in addition to Schneider AF and non-AF Schneider and Zeiss lenses. The 6008 AF cannot use AFD lenses as these do not have an aperture ring (the 6008 AF requires the aperture to be set on the lens instead of on the body) 与禄莱6008af的差异: 1. 除去内置电机驱动,缩小尺寸和减轻重量。电机驱动集成在胶片背内。(数码后背不需要) 2. 自动对焦系统性能提高(废气H型的感应,改用交叉型的感应),并包含红外的在低照时辅助对焦;对焦陷阱和焦点包围 3. 可充电电源:锂电池替换原来的镍镉电池 4. 手柄设计变成不可拆,并成为电池仓配备LCD显示屏。还可以改变三个不同位置,方便不同取景器使用方便。(原文是四个不同位置,但是我们看到hy6手柄就是三个位置) 5. LCD显示基础和必要的信息 6. 内置一个RGB感应器,扶助后背获取白平衡 7. 与后背更紧密地数据连结(如提供exif数据) 8. 可以使用施耐德的AFD系列镜头,还兼容AF镜头,手动的施耐德和蔡司镜头。6008af不能使用afd镜头,因为afd镜头没有光圈调节环 Compatibility with the Rolleiflex 6000 series system • the Schneider AF lenses, as well as non-AF Schneider and Zeiss lenses, can be used on condition they are of the PQ (Professional Quality) or PQS type (allowing 1/1000 sec shutter speed with the DirectDrive mechanism) • the 600X series 4560 film back can be used as it has a built-in motordrive, but a new adaptor is needed • the interchangeable screens for the ground glass can be used • the extension tubes, the extension bellows and retro-adaptor can be used • the 1.4X and 2X teleconvertors can be used • the 600X series prism finders and waist level finders cannot be used (but prism finders can be converted) - Hy6 specific models exist • the 600X series release cables and other electronic units cannot be used - Hy6 specific models exist • the 600X series 6060 film back cannot be used as it lacks a built-in motordrive - a Hy6 prototype model was presented at Photokina 2008 兼容禄莱6000系列系统 1. 施耐德af镜头,施耐德和蔡司的手动镜头包含PQ(专业素质)或者是PQS(拥有1/1000秒高速开门) 2. 600x系列的4560胶片背通过新的转换接环可使用,因为其内置驱动 3. 对焦屏的内屏可以更换 4. 延长管,延长皮腔和近摄反接接环都可以使用 5. 1.4x和2x增倍镜可使用 6. 600x系列的眼平和腰屏不可使用(但是眼平可修改接口)-Hy6有专用型号 7. 600x系列的快门线和电子附件不可使用-Hy6有专用型号 8. 600x系列的6060胶片背不可使用(因为缺少驱动)-hy6专用的型号在2008Photokina上展示过 |
[240 楼] 沧海一笑
[老坛泡菜]
11-8-16 17:13
g兄镜头多,请详细介绍。阿亮好银
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[239 楼] 仙娜系统
[泡菜]
11-8-16 12:07
每天翻译一点吧....
In contrast to Hasselblad's decision to turn its H line, starting with the H3D, into a closed system connecting only to its proprietary Hasselblad/Imacon digital backs, the Hy6 is opened to both Sinar and Leaf digital backs. However, as PhaseOne decided not to participate in the joint project, its digital backs do not connect to the Hy6. Meanwhile PhaseOne combined efforts with Mamiya, another medium format camera company. 相对比的哈苏的投入到H系统,一个封闭的系统,只能连接哈苏/易麦康数码后备,从H3D相机开始。Hy6就是相对开放的系统,开放给仙娜和利图数码后背。但是飞思并没有加入Hy6队伍中,他们联合了玛米亚,开展另外一个中画系统 The Hy6 ("Hy" for "hybrid") is based on an “open system” design and can easily adapt to advancements in future chip technology by allowing the insertion of larger (higher-resolution) image sensors of up to 56×56 mm, which is physically impossible with the 645-type of medium format cameras such as Hasselblad H or Mamiya/PhaseOne 645. Dalsa has already developed a sensor with 56×36 mm dimensions, the largest so far, used in the Leaf AFi-II 10. Hy6名字里的"Hy" 是"hybrid混合",代表其“开放系统”设计和超前的设计,充分为未来芯片技术发展准备。可非常容易的适应超大感光元件如:对于645类的中画幅如哈苏H或者玛米亚645不能覆盖的尺寸为56x56mm大小。Dalsa公司已经开发出尺寸为:56x36mm的目前最大面积的感光元件,并使用在Leaf AFi-II 10数码后背 It is an evolutionary extension of the 6008 AF, but with new features such as the open system user interface, a new focus detector, which is able to focus under difficult lighting conditions, and a lithium-ion battery that can be recharged without having to worry about memory loss. The height of the Hy6 is lower than the 6008 AF since the motor-drive is removed from the body and the new battery is located in the hand grip. This makes the system both compact and light. 这是6008AF的延伸进化,新功能,如开放式系统的用户界面,一个新的焦点探测器,它能够在照明困难的条件下工作,采用可充锂电池不必到担心电池记忆。 Hy6的高度比6008AF短,因为除去了内置的驱动电机和电池位置改装在手柄上;这使得系统既紧凑,又重量轻。 Both Sinar and Leaf offer the capability of turning digital backs from horizontal into vertical position. This is also possible with the Rolleiflex 4560 film back. The advantage is that the camera can be held in the same position regardless of whether one is making horizontal or vertical shots, unlike with typical 645-type medium format cameras. The 6008 AF offers the same capability with the Rolleiflex 4560 film back and Sinar eMotion digital backs with revolving adapter. 仙娜和利图都提供具备横幅或者竖幅构图旋转变换的数码后背。禄莱4560胶片背也能达成同样的工作模式。这样的优点就是相机位置不需要改变,就可以拍摄横幅或者竖幅的照片,有别于一般的645类的中画相机。画幅的变换在6008AF配备4560胶片背时和仙娜eMotion数码后背配备旋转接环时都能使用。 |
[238 楼] 仙娜系统
[泡菜]
11-8-16 10:54
为了便利交流再开设QQ交流群
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[237 楼] 爱玲珑楚楚
[泡菜]
11-8-16 09:42
阿亮好嘢
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[236 楼] gfl
[资深泡菜]
11-8-15 23:26
原文由 仙娜系统 在2011-08-15 13:57发表 太感谢了!我可以不用看谷歌翻译的别扭译文了,呵呵。 |
[235 楼] 仙娜系统
[泡菜]
11-8-15 15:15
Most of the development was financed by Jenoptik/Sinar, who provided the electronics while Franke & Heidecke developed the mechanics. The camera's parts are constructed by F&H and by German sub-assembly companies. Whatever the camera's name, all are assembled by F&H in its Braunschweig factory before they are delivered to Sinar and Leaf for final adjustments with their respective digital backs.
大部分的开发经费由Jenoptik/仙娜公司支付。并提供电子技术,F&H提供机械技术。相机部分由F&H的子公司负责组装。所有的机身都是由在德国的F&H工厂组装,然后再交付仙娜或者利图做最后的调整。 Hy6 prototypes were presented at Photokina 2006 and received the Photokina Star 2006 award for most outstanding new product. Designed to capture images using both digital and conventional film backs, the Hy6 offers photographers a true 6×6 cm medium-format size with the flexibility of a 4.5×6 cm camera. In mid-2007 the first cameras were delivered to Sinar and Leaf for final testing. They became available to customers towards the end of 2007. The Hy6 received the TIPA award 2008 for "best medium-format digital system". Hy6的原型机在2006年的Photokina展示,并获得当年的最佳新产品大奖。这款设计上同时兼容数码后备和胶片背的相机,提供满尺寸6x6画幅的胶片大小,并兼容645的规格。在2007年中,首台样机提供给仙娜和利图进行测试。在同年年底时间Hy6产品交付客户使用。2008年获取Tipa大奖的最佳中画幅数字系统。 [仙娜系统 编辑于 2011-08-15 15:15] |
[234 楼] 仙娜系统
[泡菜]
11-8-15 13:57
原文由 gfl 在2011-08-13 23:59发表 献丑自己的鬼文水平,翻译了一部分。有时间再把后面的写下去吧。 Overview The Rolleiflex Hy6 is a next-generation medium format camera body, based on the long experience Franke & Heidecke acquired with the successful Rolleiflex 6000 series. The new system is based on a cooperation between Braunschweig, Germany based Franke & Heidecke and Feuerthalen, Switzerland based Sinar AG (owned by Jena, Germany based Jenoptik). The Hy6 embodies the technological know-how, precision engineering and manufacturing of three world-renowned companies whose single objective was to create a medium-format camera system that is intuitive in design and second to none in performance. F&H and Sinar were joined by Tel Aviv, Israel based Leaf (owned by Kodak), who sells the camera under the name "AFi" together with its Aptus digital backs. 禄来Hy6是新一代中片幅相机机身。是Franke & Heidecke长期经验与成功的禄来福来6000系列基础上的新系统。新系统是通过德国的Franke & Heidecke公司和Feuerthalen,瑞士的仙娜公司(由德国耶拿拥有的Jenoptik公司控制)之间的合作。 Hy6体现的技术诀窍,精密工程和制造三个世界知名的公司,其目标是创建一个先进的数字化中画幅相继系统。 F&H和仙娜通过特拉维夫联合起来,以色列的利图公司(由柯达公司所拥有的),“AFI”的名义下销售的相机,及其数码后背。 Most of the development was financed by Jenoptik/Sinar (about 4 mio |
[233 楼] CLKxxx
[资深泡菜]
11-8-15 11:30
很漂亮的图,顶
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[232 楼] 爱玲珑楚楚
[泡菜]
11-8-15 09:55
好片
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[231 楼] gfl
[资深泡菜]
11-8-13 23:59
很多影友一直困惑禄来、仙娜、利图HY6的关系,正好在看到相关的资料推荐大家看看。可惜是E文的有影友能翻译整理的话公德无量!链接:http://www.rolleiflexpages.com/Hy6.html
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[230 楼] gfl
[资深泡菜]
11-8-13 23:51
原文由 沧海一笑 在2011-08-13 16:50发表 农夫的片子很胶片的感觉! |
[229 楼] 沧海一笑
[老坛泡菜]
11-8-13 16:50
农夫的片子漂亮,多上片,最好附参数,以供交流
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[228 楼] yelm
[资深泡菜]
11-8-13 10:21
利图、禄莱与仙娜三公司合作开发的,生产商是禄莱的母公司,三家公司各自开发了自己的固件,各自会有些小的区别。
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[227 楼] ffcolour
[泡菜]
11-8-12 22:30
这机器到底那家出的啊?
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