徕卡SL Type 601正式发布了，各网站资料整合～～～

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[144 楼] 不爱抽烟 [泡菜] 15-10-23 12:37 镜头体积太吓人了，真的只适合身高体长的欧美人，即使欧美人拿着也显得巨大啊。 50 1.4这样的焦段类似佳能50 1.4的体积重量应该是最合适的了。24-90更是做成小白兔的外形了几乎。
[143 楼] pidem [资深泡菜] 15-10-23 12:07 机身像R3不难看
[142 楼] anderson [资深泡菜] 15-10-23 11:35 发表于 2015-10-23 08:16 关于5014 这个头，看了就怕。
[141 楼] 从耗子胖成猪 [陈年泡菜] 15-10-23 11:23 越看越美，关注5014的成像。另外5014都这么大了，以后还要出5010？！那怎么折腾？
[140 楼] 猪油放光芒 [泡菜] 15-10-23 10:45 这种大变焦镜头大体积机身，高速对焦系统，应该是定位于职业摄影师的。
[139 楼] [含沙] [资深泡菜] 15-10-23 08:16 关于5014
[138 楼] [含沙] [资深泡菜] 15-10-23 08:15 关于90－280
[137 楼] [含沙] [资深泡菜] 15-10-23 08:15 关于2490～本帖最后由 [含沙] 于 2015-10-23 08:16 编辑
[136 楼] [含沙] [资深泡菜] 15-10-23 08:04 目前徕卡SL的配件： 18771 M-Adapter T 14642 R-Adapter M 16062 Rechargeable Li-Ion Battery BP-SCL 4 16065 Battery Charger BC-SCL 4 16060 Camera Cover SL 16071 USB 3.0 Cable 3 M 16037 Camera Strap Professional 16064 Lens Rear Cap SL 16019 Lens Cap E82 12301 Lens Hood for 24-90/f2.8-4 16072 HDMI Cable Typ A 1.5m 16070 Remote Release Cable RC-SCL4 14455 Leather Strap, Black with shoulder section 16046 Display Protection Foil 14624 SF 40 14623 SF 64 13059 ND Filter E82 13052 Pol Filter E82 13042 UVA Filter E82 16063 Multifunctional Handgrip HG-SCL4 (not available yet) 16004 Hand Strap S
[135 楼] [含沙] [资深泡菜] 15-10-23 08:03 臭哈苏发表于 2015-10-22 11:50 这个照片不可做参考,好的防水结构一定是内对焦内变焦设计. 是啊，就是一个网站在雨天拍摄的心得～
[134 楼] 布鲁克斯 [资深泡菜] 15-10-22 20:02 olala 发表于 2015-10-21 17:05 贡献一张体积对比把SL当作Sony A7系列的竞争产品，这只是坊间的看法，Leica自己未必是这么想的，而且两者的售价完全不在一个区间短法兰+电子取景........无非就是一种规制，Leica只是选择了这种目前看来发展态势较好的规制而已至于体积，我是不相信Leica搞不定小体积，特别是50/1.4定焦，所以看起来更像是Leica就是想搞成这么大个的按照售价和体积来看，SL镜头更像是Otus的竞争产品，Leica的牌子+AF自动对焦，还是有优势的只是Leica不像Zeiss，不甘于只做镜头配套厂，什么都要自己搞上一整套罢了所以我个人的看法是，Leica SL瞄准的是“Zeiss Otus级别镜头+高级单反”的用户群 LALA，我第一时间就猜了。应该就是类似富士的路子。X100大底DC登场头炮，pro定位的XPRO大机身卡口机上场试水，然后再慢慢细分机型、定位、价格，刷机身和镜头。这是无反生意的标准路子，也有人探过路。 SL显然不是给一般消费型用户的机器，说它大也一点问题没有。但产品是和定位相关的，这个机器成功不成功要取决于最终对定位群体摄影师的感召力。明显和A7不是一个定位的东西，硬要和S家的匹配，那也是还没见过面的A9。
[133 楼] 布鲁克斯 [资深泡菜] 15-10-22 19:59 发表于 2015-10-21 21:47 关于对焦速度，我肯定是没有用过，也没对比过，不过徕卡敢这么说：官网原文： High-Speed Autofocus Faster than any SLR system Capturing the ideal moment is not only essential in sport photography. In combination with the LEICA APO VARIO-ELMARIT-SL 90–280 mm f/2.8–4, the Leica SL has the fastest autofocus of any professional camera – including SLRs. The full travel of the lens, from infinity to its closest focusing distance, takes place in less than 110 milliseconds. 我想没有理由不比索尼的A7系列快吧。不过我也是吐槽一下索尼，没别的意思。通过Q的使用体会，完全有可能。松下的对比对焦绝对有3把刷子。
[132 楼] olala [资深泡菜] 15-10-22 17:57 om 发表于 2015-10-22 17:39 嗯…有道理，但细想，otus的销量能支撑得起一个市场？开发一套看似很小众的系统，是不是一个明智的商业决定？而厂家都是要追求利润的，所以定价就只能这样了，完全脱离主流业余摄影爱好者的承受范围任何商品不都是会细分市场的么，各有各的活法，Leica又不是Sony 你说小贝拿着换身哈骚马甲的机器到处晃悠是个啥道理呢？
[131 楼] om [陈年泡菜] 15-10-22 17:39 olala 发表于 2015-10-21 17:05 贡献一张体积对比把SL当作Sony A7系列的竞争产品，这只是坊间的看法，Leica自己未必是这么想的，而且两者的售价完全不在一个区间短法兰+电子取景........无非就是一种规制，Leica只是选择了这种目前看来发展态势较好的规制而已至于体积，我是不相信Leica搞不定小体积，特别是50/1.4定焦，所以看起来更像是Leica就是想搞成这么大个的按照售价和体积来看，SL镜头更像是Otus的竞争产品，Leica的牌子+AF自动对焦，还是有优势的只是Leica不像Zeiss，不甘于只做镜头配套厂，什么都要自己搞上一整套罢了所以我个人的看法是，Leica SL瞄准的是“Zeiss Otus级别镜头+高级单反”的用户群嗯…有道理，但细想，otus的销量能支撑得起一个市场？开发一套看似很小众的系统，是不是一个明智的商业决定？而厂家都是要追求利润的，所以定价就只能这样了，完全脱离主流业余摄影爱好者的承受范围
[130 楼] xuliangshey [资深泡菜] 15-10-22 17:07 ljx1028 发表于 2015-10-22 09:05 leica一直仰慕sony微单bigger高，所以就要做到bigger than bigger 徕卡的目的就在此都是现成的模具和设计方案无非多一个一体化的机身模具各项性能指标全部秒杀索尼不管怎么说也是属于微单系例徕卡有DC 半幅全幅传统经典旁轴机身不丢全幅单反出一个小日本想都不会想的大全幅CCD传感器顶级机身比日系D3X 1DS MA3 便携小..的S系就缺一个微单系例一出就是顶级的卖的怎么样徕卡可能根本不在意
[129 楼] KELLER [资深泡菜] 15-10-22 16:28 不说性能、画质、价格、B格，就这个外形而言，看不出人体工学设计，也看不出工业设计的美感，这外形的设计水平真不敢恭维
[128 楼] 不爱抽烟 [泡菜] 15-10-22 15:16 不管怎么样，徕卡这台机器各方面都是很强力的，即使造型差了点。影响销售的只会是价格，毕竟造型只是拿来看的，可相机是拿来用的。不过感觉机器的配套镜头开了个坏头，三支镜头都大的夸张，素质不论先，光体积重量就很打击人了，和徕卡传统的风格，小巧而便捷的同时保持高画质完全是背道而驰的。
[127 楼] 秦皇岛小张 [泡菜] 15-10-22 14:17 lukellx 发表于 2015-10-21 14:14 大，太大，重，太重，又来拿整块金属说事了_就是一个失败的产品。徕卡在电子时代败落的象征 ... 这是男人还是女人？本帖由 Windows Phone_1.0.7.0 客户端发布
[126 楼] 幸福的清清 [泡菜] 15-10-22 13:38 如果SL能够成为一个好后背，能够出色地整合莱卡的镜头，再加上出色的L镜头，这将是一个很有吸引力的相机。我个人不太在意外观。充满期待本帖由 iPhone7,1 客户端发布
[125 楼] auxo [泡菜] 15-10-22 12:10 现在好多样张和raw文件都出来了。镜头的分辨率真的惊人。。。24mm端全开极端边缘有点模糊，中心完美，果然是准备把变焦头做出otus的水平。机身色彩风格和s挺像。从画质上看绝对不是什么日系贴牌。
[124 楼] 臭哈苏 [陈年泡菜] 15-10-22 12:01 秦皇岛小张发表于 2015-10-21 20:00 除了最后一条很难达到，前面的都不是问题外观结构可以任意改变,只要法兰距和镜头卡口不变,就等于一个系统的持续性递进.
[123 楼] ssmmss [禁言中] 15-10-22 11:52 planetocean 发表于 2015-10-21 19:48 慢慢大家的意见转向理性了。其实看着看着也不那么丑了徕卡这样的百年公司，不会随意设计个失败的造型出来的，设计师应该有很多的考虑，我们可能也需要一个适应的过程。我一开始也很失望，现在倒是越来越喜欢了
[122 楼] 臭哈苏 [陈年泡菜] 15-10-22 11:50 发表于 2015-10-22 10:05 Rain and Pink Tractors in the UK Every year in Suffolk there is a vintage tractor road run for ladies. This is a charity event in aid of Breast Cancer Research, it’s been running for 12 years, and next year they look like passing the ￡500,000 mark. This year there were around 160 tractors, all decorated in pink, some of the tractors are well over 60 years old. For the last 4 years I’ve been the official photographer for the event. It’s an interesting challenge, the intention being to catch good images of each of the drivers (and their tractors) at 4 different locations. It takes around 25 minutes for them to pass at each point, they’re travelling quite fast, and sometimes very close together. Any AF system is likely to focus on the front of the tractor rather than the driver, and the english weather usually means that a pretty wide aperture is required. Missing someone is just not an option, and generally speaking you only have a few seconds to focus and shoot each shot, the issue is complicated by ... 这个照片不可做参考,好的防水结构一定是内对焦内变焦设计.
[121 楼] norbear [泡菜] 15-10-22 11:44 Sony 这回该乐坏了
[120 楼] 虎朋狗友 [资深泡菜] 15-10-22 11:23 qingmingtt 发表于 2015-10-21 14:42 就那体积应该发在单反区或者发在中画幅相机版。哦忘了，它只是135。
[119 楼] [含沙] [资深泡菜] 15-10-22 10:13 对比～
[118 楼] [含沙] [资深泡菜] 15-10-22 10:08 Heat and Dust in South West Crete My wife and I recharge our batteries and get some late summer sunshine in South West Crete each year. Where we go the White mountains come right down to the Libyan Sea, most of the villages have no roads, so you either have to catch a boat or get there on foot. We do lots of walking, and take lots of photographs. This year it was extremely hot (high 30s Centigrade), and it’s always very dusty. I like to keep a camera in my hand at all times (it’s just not the same if you have to pull it out of a backpack). This meant that the SL was regularly splashed by seawater, drenched in sweat and then liberally dusted – as usual a couple of my lenses will need to have their paint renewed in Wetzlar. Once again the Leica SL proved to be a tough and rewarding companion. There were several points where my iPhone refused to work (with a message saying it needed to cool down first) – the camera on the other hand performed flawlessly, the only necessary maintenance was to rinse some salty water out of one of the rear buttons which was beginning to get sticky.
[117 楼] [含沙] [资深泡菜] 15-10-22 10:05 Rain and Pink Tractors in the UK Every year in Suffolk there is a vintage tractor road run for ladies. This is a charity event in aid of Breast Cancer Research, it’s been running for 12 years, and next year they look like passing the ￡500,000 mark. This year there were around 160 tractors, all decorated in pink, some of the tractors are well over 60 years old. For the last 4 years I’ve been the official photographer for the event. It’s an interesting challenge, the intention being to catch good images of each of the drivers (and their tractors) at 4 different locations. It takes around 25 minutes for them to pass at each point, they’re travelling quite fast, and sometimes very close together. Any AF system is likely to focus on the front of the tractor rather than the driver, and the english weather usually means that a pretty wide aperture is required. Missing someone is just not an option, and generally speaking you only have a few seconds to focus and shoot each shot, the issue is complicated by the need to get the driver’s attention at the moment you shoot – of course, this means shooting one handed, waving to the drivers with the left hand whilst shooting with he right. This year it was raining for the first two locations…… not just raining a bit, but pouring down – I didn’t have an assistant, so there was no way of using an umbrella, and there was no cover at any of the shooting locations … . . so the SL and the 24–90 just had to get wet, and they did, really seriously wet. But they performed perfectly, no glitches, and the battery was still 1/4 full after 700 shots. I was also pretty wet . . but for the first time since shooting the event I didn’t miss a shot. 本帖最后由 [含沙] 于 2015-10-22 10:10 编辑
[116 楼] anima [泡菜] 15-10-22 09:42 zchnjjs 发表于 2015-10-21 22:55 有可能，是照着专业工具做得，过几年镜头群完整了，完全可以挑战尼佳的专业地位，新闻发布会体育赛场或许就能看到SL或后继机的身影了。控制界面过于简洁，不知能否担当专业用途
[115 楼] ljx1028 [泡菜] 15-10-22 09:05 leica一直仰慕sony微单bigger高，所以就要做到bigger than bigger