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[988 楼] 太炎门派 [泡菜]
16-5-22 14:01
★船长★ 发表于 2016-2-29 12:13
有朝一日再买一个徕兹1C放家里，精致艺术实用便捷，一个字“好”


有意义
[987 楼] 小張張 [泡菜]
16-5-22 10:12
虎朋狗友 发表于 2016-2-28 21:05
这是在网上看到的一段关于莱卡放大机的身世：As I understand it, the Leitz Focomat was designed by Walter Klatt, who was a partner of --or sold his company to-- Paul Kienzle, the father of Wolgang Kienzle - - the current owner of Kienzle Phototechnik (the other story I've heard is that they co-designed it). Anyway, the Focomat is based on a Klatt-Kienzle design... not the other way around. That might give you an idea of the quality level you're dealing with. 也就是说，Focomat 是Walter Klatt设计的。他是Kienzle的合伙人，或是出售给Kienzle. (另一版说法是他俩共同设计的）。我一直怀疑Focomat是外包给别人做的，否则很难理解从未涉足中幅胶片相机的莱卡怎么弄出来个6x9的IIa/IIc放大机。


这是原文

Richard,

As for the "performance and value" of any Kienzle product, I don't think you'll hear many complaints. The stuff is top notch, Rolls-Royce quality (OK... BMW). For example, their 4x5 enlarger has a negative carrier mounted in a ball-bearing roll-out frame.. butter smooth!. A few of their products have chunky-looking designs, but what the heck .. you'll be using it in the dark! I'd rather use a funky-but-cool-looking Wedgewood gas range over a "clean design" electric stove, any day.

As I understand it, the Leitz Focomat was designed by Walter Klatt, who was a partner of --or sold his company to-- Paul Kienzle, the father of Wolgang Kienzle - - the current owner of Kienzle Phototechnik (the other story I've heard is that they co-designed it). Anyway, the Focomat is based on a Klatt-Kienzle design... not the other way around. That might give you an idea of the quality level you're dealing with.

Kienzle isn't very well-known, outside of Germany. Pity. They offer parts and pieces (and custom manufacturing) to keep all the Focomat and Varioscop-type enlargers alive and well ... they even used to offer PC-controlled VC heads. That means that --right now, in full-swing digital era-- you can easily find negative carriers, masks, red filters, condensers, etc. for all of theses "old" workhorse enlargers... no problem.

A couple of other Kienzle "secrets":
1.They sell re-furbished used stuff online
2.They've branched-out into plastics and offer a superb plexiglass print washer.

I don't think that the A66 is made any longer, but you should really give Wolfgang Kienzle a call (a really great guy, and a pleasure to do business with). He can answer your questions directy and save you a lot of time.

Good printing,

Christopher
[986 楼] 大雅视野 [资深泡菜]
16-3-22 08:36
虎朋狗友 发表于 2016-2-28 21:05
这是在网上看到的一段关于莱卡放大机的身世：As I understand it, the Leitz Focomat was designed by Walter Klatt, who was a partner of --or sold his company to-- Paul Kienzle, the father of Wolgang Kienzle - - the current owner of Kienzle Phototechnik (the other story I've heard is that they co-designed it). Anyway, the Focomat is based on a Klatt-Kienzle design... not the other way around. That might give you an idea of the quality level you're dealing with. 也就是说，Focomat 是Walter Klatt设计的。他是Kienzle的合伙人，或是出售给Kienzle. (另一版说法是他俩共同设计的）。我一直怀疑Focomat是外包给别人做的，否则很难理解从未涉足中幅胶片相机的莱卡怎么弄出来个6x9的IIa/IIc放大机。


有这种可能。
[985 楼] 小張張 [泡菜]
16-2-29 22:50
★船长★ 发表于 2016-2-29 12:13
有朝一日再买一个徕兹1C放家里，精致艺术实用便捷，一个字“好”


必須
[984 楼] ★船长★ [泡菜]
16-2-29 12:13
有朝一日再买一个徕兹1C放家里，精致艺术实用便捷，一个字“好”
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[983 楼] 虎朋狗友 [资深泡菜]
16-2-28 21:05
这是在网上看到的一段关于莱卡放大机的身世：As I understand it, the Leitz Focomat was designed by Walter Klatt, who was a partner of --or sold his company to-- Paul Kienzle, the father of Wolgang Kienzle - - the current owner of Kienzle Phototechnik (the other story I've heard is that they co-designed it). Anyway, the Focomat is based on a Klatt-Kienzle design... not the other way around. That might give you an idea of the quality level you're dealing with. 也就是说，Focomat 是Walter Klatt设计的。他是Kienzle的合伙人，或是出售给Kienzle. (另一版说法是他俩共同设计的）。我一直怀疑Focomat是外包给别人做的，否则很难理解从未涉足中幅胶片相机的莱卡怎么弄出来个6x9的IIa/IIc放大机。
[982 楼] 小張張 [泡菜]
16-2-28 12:02
大雅视野 发表于 2016-2-22 16:19
价格不菲吧？


呵呵.
[981 楼] 小張張 [泡菜]
16-2-28 12:00
虎朋狗友 发表于 2016-2-28 01:35
eBay上新近从荷兰卖出一台就是这个价。带Ilforspeed 500可变反差光源，Focotar II 100 (另一个头也是Focotar, 但看不清是不是 II)。这当然算是捡漏。另两台挂着的都在$2000或更高的价位。


海淘畢意有風險. 关稅会令成增添不少……
[980 楼] 虎朋狗友 [资深泡菜]
16-2-28 01:35
小張張 发表于 2016-2-27 22:05
有那麼便宜嗎？
eBay上新近从荷兰卖出一台就是这个价。带Ilforspeed 500可变反差光源，Focotar II 100 (另一个头也是Focotar, 但看不清是不是 II)。这当然算是捡漏。另两台挂着的都在$2000或更高的价位。
[979 楼] 小張張 [泡菜]
16-2-27 22:05
虎朋狗友 发表于 2016-2-24 10:32
是滴。低于这个价一般只能买到IIa. 当然运气好也偶尔能遇上便宜的，或是配件不全的。


有那麼便宜嗎？
[978 楼] 小張張 [泡菜]
16-2-27 22:03
黑白張 发表于 2016-2-24 07:40
2c花了多少银子？


兄弟，还未找到合適的？
[977 楼] 小張張 [泡菜]
16-2-27 21:52
虎朋狗友 发表于 2016-2-24 10:32
是滴。低于这个价一般只能买到IIa. 当然运气好也偶尔能遇上便宜的，或是配件不全的。


配啥头？100/4.5隨便都找到
[976 楼] 黑白張 [资深泡菜]
16-2-25 09:18
虎朋狗友 发表于 2016-2-24 10:32
是滴。低于这个价一般只能买到IIa. 当然运气好也偶尔能遇上便宜的，或是配件不全的。


这个价格不高。
[975 楼] 虎朋狗友 [资深泡菜]
16-2-24 10:32
黑白張 发表于 2016-2-24 10:18
$1300美元？
是滴。低于这个价一般只能买到IIa. 当然运气好也偶尔能遇上便宜的，或是配件不全的。
[974 楼] 黑白張 [资深泡菜]
16-2-24 10:18
虎朋狗友 发表于 2016-2-24 10:15
大胆猜一下，$1300+运费。


$1300美元？
[973 楼] 虎朋狗友 [资深泡菜]
16-2-24 10:15
黑白張 发表于 2016-2-24 07:40
2c花了多少银子？
大胆猜一下，$1300+运费。
[972 楼] 黑白張 [资深泡菜]
16-2-24 07:40
鸟眼看天 发表于 2016-02-23 19:00
刚淘得一IIC，还没有组装


2c花了多少银子？
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[971 楼] 鸟眼看天 [泡菜]
16-2-24 03:00
刚淘得一IIC，还没有组装
[970 楼] 大雅视野 [资深泡菜]
16-2-22 16:19
小張張 发表于 2016-2-8 10:28
除夕，從一位老外收藏家收回來. 花了不少唇舌……

徠卡ELCAN 軍用放大机ELCAN 121A.


价格不菲吧？
[969 楼] 不许还是不许 [泡菜]
16-2-17 01:18
将来大房子专门建个暗室，嗯嗯
[968 楼] 小張張 [泡菜]
16-2-8 10:28
除夕，從一位老外收藏家收回來. 花了不少唇舌……

徠卡ELCAN 軍用放大机ELCAN 121A.

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[967 楼] 没事到处逛 [泡菜]
16-1-14 16:51
关东人A 发表于 2013-5-7 21:24
从黑白小站处入手一台IIC，成色新净！非常喜欢！
花了多少银子？*^_^*
[966 楼] 黑白張 [资深泡菜]
15-11-8 16:05
★船长★ 发表于 2015-11-7 08:16
估计是个人配的放滤片用的，徕卡放大机生产久远，当时还没有可变反差相纸吧，估计也不会给你配个原厂的框。


确实如此。
[965 楼] 虎朋狗友 [资深泡菜]
15-11-7 22:35
再接再厉。
[964 楼] 虎朋狗友 [资深泡菜]
15-11-7 22:30
★船长★ 发表于 2015-11-7 16:39
我的没有，那就是镜前滤片了不影响光路，好啊谁有照片发来我看看我的能改造吗
有图有真相
[963 楼] ★船长★ [泡菜]
15-11-7 16:39
虎朋狗友 发表于 2015-11-07 00:20
后期的Ic在灯碗下方，聚光镜之上有放滤光片的抽屉。...
我的没有，那就是镜前滤片了不影响光路，好啊谁有照片发来我看看我的能改造吗
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[962 楼] 虎朋狗友 [资深泡菜]
15-11-7 08:20
★船长★ 发表于 2015-11-7 08:16
估计是个人配的放滤片用的，徕卡放大机生产久远，当时还没有可变反差相纸吧，估计也不会给你配个原厂的框。
后期的Ic在灯碗下方，聚光镜之上有放滤光片的抽屉。
[961 楼] ★船长★ [泡菜]
15-11-7 08:16
黑白張 发表于 2015-10-28 12:20
这个托架是原厂的？
估计是个人配的放滤片用的，徕卡放大机生产久远，当时还没有可变反差相纸吧，估计也不会给你配个原厂的框。
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[960 楼] 黑白張 [资深泡菜]
15-10-28 20:20
黑白小站 发表于 2013-04-12 06:50
2.


这个托架是原厂的？
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[959 楼] ★船长★ [泡菜]
15-10-28 08:09
★船长★ 发表于 2015-09-04 22:25
本人欲购一台徕卡徕兹1C放大机，有意出手的请联系我<**隐私保护，信息超过7天的手机号码不予显示**>。

...
放大机已经购得，此条信息作废。
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