苹果更安全吗?
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[1 楼] K-jet
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10-2-25 09:43
总结一下: 基本上,安全专家认为,从安全角度看,w7 技术上更先进,苹果稍微落后。
市场份额来说,苹果也许受到更少攻击。 两种OS 都已经相对成熟。 http://www.tomshardware.com/news/pc-windows-apple-mac-osx,9557.html Paul Kocher, president and chief scientist at Cryptography Research: "The fair answer is that with the latest versions of each operating system there isn't a compelling security reason to pick one or the other. It used to be that Apple was doing a better job, but with Windows 7 Microsoft has caught up. There are some differences; Windows has a better security ecosystem. On the other hand, Apple tends to have more expensive hardware and has a smaller market share, so it attracts fewer malware writers. Both have security bugs. Both need patches. Both can be broken if someone finds a zero-day exploit." Charlie Miller, a principal analyst at consultancy Independent Security Evaluators: "Technologically speaking, PCs are a little more secure than Macs. Macs have a larger attack surface out of the box (Flash, Java, support for a million file formats, etc.) and lack some anti-exploitation technologies found in PCs like full ASLR [Address Space Layout Randomization]. This means Macs have more vulnerabilities and it's easier to turn a vulnerability into an exploit on the platform. Despite the fact it is less secure, paradoxically, Macs are actually safer to use for most people. This is because there simply isn't much risk of being exploited or installing malware. "This safeness is purely a function of market share. Since Macs are only around 10 percent of computers out there, and it takes just as much effort for bad guys to write malware or exploits, they tend to spend all of their time targeting PCs. In other words, despite the fact that Macs are less secure than PCs, if you give one teenager a Mac and another a PC and come back in a month, the odds are the Mac will have no problems and the PC will be infected with malware. At some point the market share of Macs will reach a threshold to interest attackers, and then things will quickly turn bad for Mac users." Rich Mogull, CEO at Securosis: "It depends on which version of Windows we're talking about. Clearly there are major differences between Windows XP and Windows 7. Second is, are we talking about safety versus security? Microsoft has done more in terms of its inherent security features than Apple has in the operating system. All of that said, Microsoft gets attacked a lot more than Apple does. Right now your odds of being infected as a Mac user by malicious software are quite a bit lower than a Windows user, unless you do stupid things, such as download free versions of commercial software. And some of the pornography sites on the Internet, the dark corners of the Internet have stuff that will hurt a Mac. "But I want to give Microsoft credit because the more advanced features they put into their operating system are superior to what Apple has done. It's really a balance because there's little motivation for Apple to do more at this time. The Mac OS has got some holes in there that Microsoft has closed down. But since it's attacked less there is less motivation for Apple to close the gap." Tyler Reguly, senior security research engineer at nCircle: "If you believe the hype and the flashy commercials the answer would be Mac. But if you take a look at the two platforms, and the mindsets of the companies behind them then the PC wins hands down. If you compare Windows 7 to Snow Leopard, then the simple winner is Windows 7. Microsoft brought in teams of security professionals to look at their code and find problems leading to a more secure product while Apple is often criticized for ignoring issues. "The idea of the consumer being protected due to lack of market share is fairly obtuse, as more people buy into the product and market share grows, targeted attacks will grow as well. You also have to consider that Microsoft has a patch program in place that provides patches and updates on a more regular basis than Apple, this is something that the consumer should care about, as should they care about the plethora of PC security products that exist. "The big risk is client side attacks and most of that could be prevented by using adequate software on the desktop, along with common sense while surfing. Until consumers can learn to do this on a regular basis it won't matter if they are running a Mac or a PC...they'll be at risk." |
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[109 楼] stupidyork
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10-3-6 22:23
原文由 abcpaulabc 在2010-03-06 22:04发表 你那句话有很严重的误导性,不知道你是怎么得出来的结论,而且从来没有更正过 我第一眼看到的时候,差点相信了,吓了我一跳 况且2009-12的帖子称不上※※资料 话说得太满了,被人拿出来嘲讽一下,也是可以预见的事情,没必要顾左右而言他 至于用到“调戏”这样的词汇,也只能增添别人的反感而已,没什么益处 |
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[108 楼] stupidyork
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10-3-6 22:09
原文由 noisy0083 在2010-03-06 21:32发表 我又看了一下回帖,据说是根据这个测试: http://www.pcbeta.com/html/92/n-592.html 看了之后就更糊涂啦 |
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[107 楼] abcpaulabc
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10-3-6 22:06
原文由 buenas 在2010-03-05 19:24发表 我嘛,上网调戏一下软粉,只是当作吃饱了也拉完大便后的娱乐 可不象某人认为,打几个字也要“不遗余力”,看来,你家要换个键盘了 对了,你也就是敢在些争议贴里搞些小动作 要不,咱们转一下地方,去这讨论讨论? /showthread.php?threadid=489874 [abcpaulabc 编辑于 2010-03-06 22:08] |
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[106 楼] abcpaulabc
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10-3-6 22:04
原文由 buenas 在2010-03-04 23:08发表 唉。。。。。继续搬吧 前清的※※资料要不要帮你翻翻? |
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[105 楼] noisy0083
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10-3-6 21:32
原文由 stupidyork 在2010-03-06 05:56发表 关键是要高80%呢。快一倍了。 |
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[104 楼] K-jet
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10-3-6 06:26
原文由 buenas 在2010-03-05 19:24发表 内牛满面,就是就是,狂点头。。。。 |
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[103 楼] stupidyork
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10-3-6 05:56
原文由 buenas 在2010-03-04 23:08发表 刚刚看了那个帖子,混乱成那样。。。匪夷所思。。。呵呵 没看几个回帖就晕了 另外我不太理解“用mac执行linux程序“这个说法,难道mac都带有gnome、gtk、kde、qt这些玩意了?而且执行效率比linux系统要高? |
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[102 楼] buenas
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10-3-6 05:52
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[101 楼] stupidyork
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10-3-6 04:32
原文由 noisy0083 在2010-03-05 23:37发表 ubuntu用户情绪稳定地路过 |
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[100 楼] noisy0083
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10-3-5 23:37
原文由 buenas 在2010-03-04 23:08发表 这个太牛了。。。 |
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[99 楼] buenas
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10-3-5 19:24
原文由 abcpaulabc 在2010-03-05 12:32发表 想起第三方来了? 先不说这个snitch是要收费的(再不说好不好破解,资深据说是绝不用盗版的),windows装个第三方软件支持PDF资深可是不遗余力口诛笔伐啊。 |
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[98 楼] abcpaulabc
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10-3-5 12:32
原文由 K-jet 在2010-03-05 12:03发表 有第三方的little snitch |
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[97 楼] K-jet
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10-3-5 12:03
攻击7的UAC的,基本没有好好用过,个人感觉和OS X 10.6 的UAC差不多。
VISTA pre-sp2的UAC超级烂,SP2 之后改进很多. vista pre-sp2 确实属于缺心眼。 sp2 后好很多了. 可惜,已经臭大街了. 7 的更好了. 借本上 7 = vista sp3 m$ 还是花了些心思的. firewall 有不少改进。 os x 到现在还没有双向 防火墙. 搞得我对好多程序不放心,不知道他们什么时候向internet的什么地方 送什么东东。 |
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[96 楼] eeplit
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10-3-5 07:50
随便其实,民用的东西不要指望太多。个人认为在普通用户的系统里,麦金塔相对安全些,因为毕竟针对麦金塔的病毒要少很多。微软还是树大招风
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[95 楼] 沧海惜蝴蝶
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10-3-5 07:30
也许贵的有道理!
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[94 楼] abcpaulabc
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10-3-4 23:21
原文由 buenas 在2010-03-04 23:01发表 呵呵,可见你对苹果的了解是多么贫乏 |
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[93 楼] buenas
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10-3-4 23:08
原文由 abcpaulabc 在2010-03-04 22:46发表 "mac比linux任何工作性能超过80%,有些比较甚至是用mac在执行linux程序", 这种贴看多了,某种优越感不能不油然而生啊。 ![]() J/K |
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[92 楼] buenas
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10-3-4 23:01
原文由 abcpaulabc 在2010-03-04 22:43发表 ARD就是开源VNC的包装版,其他问题无法一一作答了,我最早用的是32k内存的Apple iie。 http://ria.richtechmedia.com/2008/06/19/%E7%82%BA%E4%BD%95-windows-remote-desktop-connecton-rdc-%E9%80%9F%E5%BA%A6%E9%80%99%E9%BA%BC%E5%BF%AB%EF%BC%9F/ |
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[91 楼] abcpaulabc
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10-3-4 22:48
原文由 韦板凳 在2010-03-04 21:32发表 其实还有句更牛逼的 我用的系统,跟NAVY、NASDAQ他们现在的爸——美国※※是一样的 |
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[90 楼] abcpaulabc
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10-3-4 22:46
最后BS一下buenas这位泡菜
每次有mac vs win的贴子,你必进来显摆一翻,然后每次都必定搬出所谓的企业理论来 不过无所谓,我会捍卫你显摆装B的权利,我也有回帖BS的权利 |
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[89 楼] abcpaulabc
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10-3-4 22:43
原文由 buenas 在2010-03-04 20:35发表 几个问题请教 1、请简单介绍windows实现局域网桌面共享及控制功能的步骤 2、Apple Remote Destop是个什么软件? 3、说到协同工作,请问Final Cut Server是个什么软件 4、再说协同工作,请问Xsan是个什么软件 5、既然你向我抛书包装老人家,我再请教一下,Apple III里有几个插槽?它能显示多少栏文字? |
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[88 楼] 韦板凳
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10-3-4 21:32
原文由 abcpaulabc 在2010-03-04 14:37发表 嗯,这话好。 我要印在我电脑的Win图标下面,每天早中晚诵读三遍。信则灵,保证不中毒不死机。 |
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[87 楼] buenas
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10-3-4 21:11
原文由 PowerPCG5 在2010-03-04 20:50发表 这个页很早看了,老实说,大多是打包一些开源的东西,无新意可言,虚拟化居然是Parallel Desktop这样桌面级的东西, 还不是自己的也能吹上,Win2008已全面集成HyperV了,内核级虚拟化,OSX差的不是一点半点了。就此打住。 |
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[86 楼] PowerPCG5
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10-3-4 20:50
原文由 buenas 在2010-03-04 20:35发表 我对这种所谓的“企业应用”很憎恶,哈哈,所以没有涉猎,也许http://www.apple.com/business/solutions/it/能有所帮助。 这论坛又不是企业信息化论坛,一味地强调所谓的企业只能令人反感。 |
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[85 楼] buenas
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10-3-4 20:35
原文由 PowerPCG5 在2010-03-04 20:29发表 你说吧,到底还能怎么着,远程部署和桌面共享八杆子打不着,再说了,就算是桌面共享比我们现在用的免费realVNC好到哪里。 [buenas 编辑于 2010-03-04 20:45] [2010-03-04 20:48 补充如下] ![]() |
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[84 楼] PowerPCG5
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10-3-4 20:29
原文由 buenas 在2010-03-04 20:09发表 说起来这些有可能只是你不知道而已。 最见不得开口企业闭口企业却躲在背后借口安全保密远程管理窥视别人电脑隐私的人。 远程部署,呵呵,Mac的桌面共享还是要赞一个。 |
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[83 楼] buenas
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10-3-4 20:09
原文由 PowerPCG5 在2010-03-04 19:56发表 无意显摆,用Linux的很多都是因为负担不起软件的许可证,前面加个家庭普通用户也许还成立, 企业无法用,比如企业600-700个桌面系统,要换成Mac系统简直是噩梦,就经常远程部署安装软件这个任务就能累死人,想定制一个企业统一的桌面也非易事,Mac系统可管理性、可定制性远远无法和windows相比。 |
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[82 楼] PowerPCG5
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10-3-4 19:56
原文由 buenas 在2010-03-04 19:13发表 显摆那些服务器有啥意思…… 作为普通用户,日常应用中,用Mac不必在病毒和杀毒软件上花费精力,安心上网,这就够了。 |
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[81 楼] pete725
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10-3-4 19:27
本来苹果操作系统的人就少,也就更少的去写病毒了
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