刚看到的，一个洋O粉痛骂dpreview在E5测试中的猫腻...哈哈

亮点是dpr的确测出了E5的分辨率，但是没敢把结果和另外3台机器做对比....因为E5爆了dpr的分辨率测试表...

43网的yescooling 做了简要翻译，转贴过来，有兴趣的看看...

三人成虎，可怜的O
O 一向不会做市场，大家都知道的。手上有料，却不知道如何表达。真理掌握在少数人手里，所以凡夫俗子只能依靠网络的评测，互相之间的传递来衡量相机，系统。E5 真的那么差么。 可能国内的兄弟姐妹们不太有时间逛国外的论坛。 有个叫DPREIVEW的，现在被O粉骂的狗血淋头。 知道为什么么，看看这个哥哥的解释。我一句英文，一句中文的解释。这些是原话，我稍后附加网址，英语好的兄弟姐妹自己去查。
http://www.flickr.com/groups/olympusesystem/discuss/72157625884440527/

"I'm a long time reader of DP review and even though DP generally favors the most popular cameras in Nov of 07 I selected the Olympus E-3 as I moved away from film. My prior SLR of choice was Nikon for my wedding events and travel. I opted for the E-3 because where I shoot the going gets very tough with rain, sand, salt spray, dust, and just plain camera killing elements. I also selected E-3 because of overall less bulk and a full frame 4/3 format that more closely matches standard photo frame print size without much if any cropping.
我是DP的忠实听众，从DP中意很多名牌大厂时候，我仍旧与11月7日选择了E3，是E3让我告别了电影摄像。其实我的最初选择是尼康为了婚礼和旅行摄影。我选择E3，是因为我的拍摄场地大部分要和雨，沙滩，盐幕，灰尘，还有其他一切能把相机送入维修的条件打交道。还有个原因，就是4/3系统的体积及画面的利用程度和我的需求非常接近。

Olympus has always been the new horizon leader opting to place seemingly gadet type options on their cameras to be criticized by reviewers like DP as being semi-pro or consumer but would later end up in pro camera bodies. Now Olympus has all but eliminated the AA filter and others will soon follow.
O一直都是改革的先锋，而且批评也是来自普通大众。最后由旗舰出场把被砸的场子拿回来。现在O对E5进行了AA修改，其他家肯定会模仿。

As you read DP's final review take note of careful wording that skirts around the new E-5 bodies stellar features like weather sealing as being the class leader. Yes Nikon and Canon that were used to compare have a modest amount of weather sealing but they also have a weak link like the pop up flash. Any camera is only as good as its weakest link when it comes to weather sealing. In my travels when it rains I get the shots and those fellow travelers with Nikon or Canon run for cover.
如果你读了DP的最后一些语句，你会发现DP承认E5的机身耐操程度是这个级别的老大。是的，尼康和佳能机身也不错，但是也有这样那样的缺点，例如防水比较差的内闪也许就是放水了。 当我旅游拍摄的时候，下雨天对我OK，可惜C N的玩家却到处跑路找地方为相机遮雨。

DP's final review testing confirms the E-5 has the second best standard DR of the four models compared, with Nikon taking the lead in highlights, but with the E-5 leading in the shadows. Engage DR added depth software in all models and then the E-5 has the widest DR of all four. So to say the E-5 lacks in DR goes against DP's own testing. Taking DP's review to another level by researching past reviews of say the Canon Mark 5II and comparing it to the E-5 you will find that the E-5 beats the Canon Mark in total DR as well.
（重点）DP的最后测试确认， E5是综合第二好的机身（4个当中），尼康那款第一。但是E5阴影部分领先，如果大家都是用机内自带软件，提升动态范围的话，E5是第一。E5的确动态范围不够（不开提升的话），但是在测试中也不是垫底的。DP说E5动态不够，是搬石头砸自己脚。如果仔细的回顾下佳能 Mark 5II，你会发现E5动态范围秒杀他。

Next point DP evaluated resolution very well and indicates very sharp images with very high lines of resolution in JPEG as well as RAW. However, DP failed to compare the E-5 to the other models with the resolution charts. In prior reviews DP generally compares all models in the review for resolution. DP elected to omit resolution comparision in their final review. If you research DP's prior reviews of the cameras compared you will find the E-5 beats the Nikon and Canon as well as the Pentax used in comparison.
DP的确正确的测试出了E5的分辨率，无论是在JPG还是RAW. 但是DP 却不肯将E5与其他的型号进行对比！以前的测试，DP不都是习惯这么做的吗？如果DP敢这么做，哼哼。。。。就会发现E5秒杀其他三款。

Olympus glass is class leading and half the bulk of Nikon and Canon. So on closer examination of the wording in the DP review you will note that few words indicate just how more compact the E-5 is as compared to the competition when you attach a lens.
（这句有点废话 我不翻译了 鬼都知道4/3镜头体积小，光学性能不错）

Lastly with the DP resolution evaluation they used default settings for JPEG and produced slightly over 2600 lines. I wonder what the resolution lines would be with the JPEG setting as super fine Vs default.
最后分辨的测试有点不全，出场设置的情况下JPG2600线，如果修改下会有表现呢？

JPEG color is where you want it right out of the camera. But then if you want to spend your life in post buy the Nikon or Canon. If you spend most of your time above say ISO 2000 and love to sit in front of your PC than Nikon or Canon is for you. However, if you want to be a photographer and not a darkroom technician go another direction. Also don't forget to carry a plastic bag to protect your investment.

（这句也有点废话） O出色彩，CN需要后期。如果你时间比较多，喜欢对着电脑修改，或者你的拍摄条件大部分都是ISO2000以上，那么使用CN吧。当然，如果你喜欢照相，而不是当暗房工作人员，你不妨考虑下O。最后1句忠告，勤带雨伞，为你的相机镜头。

Depth of field: Many people like the effect of the more shallow depth of field from a 35mm lens. However, most other manufacturers lens selection isn't as fast as that from Olympus. I'm not saying the faster Olympus creates the exact same effect as 35mm format with a slighly slower lens but I tell you that sometimes you really need the extra depth of field especiall in low light. Example at a recent wedding there were two professional photographers assigned to the event. One was me and the other a friend with Canon gear. The Canon failed to capture the proper depth of field detail for the rign and hand shot. My E-5 with 12-60mm locked on very sharp in low available light at ISO 1600 with not issue. The other professional took at least a dozen shots and I took two with both being just fine for the final photo delivery to the couple. The Canon photographer asked me to take the shot as his camera was failing to provide sufficient depth of field.
（累了不翻译了）
The key feature of the E-5 is the much weaker AA filter. Olympus has once again opened up new territory with the much weaker AA filter. I'm certain all other manufacturers as we speak are back at the drawing board trying to copy what Olympus has done with the E-5.
（累了）
Olympus has now matched lens and body for a nearly perfect world as DP mildly indicates with their resolution testing especially with RAW exceeding perfect Nyquist limits unlike Nikon and Canon falling short of the objective. DP review did a very good job of pointing out how sharp the E-5 is, but failed to compare that testing to the other cameras in the review. Being silent over such a critical comparison makes me wonder why they failed to include such comparison when a resolution comparison is generally included with prior DP reviews in models past. I strongly feel DP should establish standard review coverage for the written word just as they have for their bench testing.
这个重点，E5的分辨率测试已经把DP的标准爆了。。It exceeds the perfect limit.

The E-5 sensor is a 2008 vintage which tells me Olympus had time to perfect the process and not rush to market. As for me I'm a 1948 vintage and just sold all of my Nikon film equipment and will be heading for Cambodia very soon during the rain season and maybe next year the Amazon. My new E-5 has already taken wedding photos without flash at ISO 1600 and 2500 very well.

Sometimes you have to have the courage not to be a sheep. Will Rodgers once said "we are all ignorant, just on different subjects".
DP's wording was carefully thought out but clearly indicates they like Nikon a great deal. To omit facts is the same as not being totally truthful. "
最后一句貌似对CMOS的无奈，看来巧妇难为无米之炊啊。

骂归骂，我还是相信DPR这种专业网站的评测结果，虽然会黑掉点东西，但是数据还是靠谱的～

4/3网那边康师傅的K-5、E-5测评都过去几个月了也总是搞不出来，估计结果不太好在4/3发了。

呵呵，不知道dpreview测试的具体情况。但感觉O和P是一个经营策略，不太喜欢搞营销。
这必然导致销量提升慢，单件成本高，对经营非常不利。就像一个人，再能干，也还得多拍主管马屁，否则还是很难爬升。

我有，可以代为测试，不知道你具体要怎么测？什么环境？什么设置？

抹油...

啥时候有了E口蔡司，再来个复古带EVF的机身，最好上到2400万像素，那就搞一个

不能光吹水，贴个图，
俺过节去，你们继续Y....

E5+ZD150

F2



[三少爷 编辑于 2011-02-14 19:55]

被窝都没捂热，也太快了。

早没了，就用了两个礼拜，片子全都是缺省jpg直出拍的，我压根就没调过机身设置....问有E5的吧~

三少，你有E-5，所以请教一下，E-5开了灰阶auto后，是否和EP1一样满片噪点。如果是的话，DP对E-5动态范围的论调就没有问题。

你对目前的奶昔机身有兴趣吗？

有消息？

别扁我，我是铁杆o粉

好爽，，，貌似dp的评测说的是分辨率的确很高，但是弱化的低通带来的干扰影响了分辨率的进一步变态

我觉得不存在啥暴表的问题

同等E口24，但目前消息表明不是1.7。
小三对骚泥表示过无爱。

真没了,要么玩胶片吧...

个人认为DP的做法很正常，比如首帖中所谓爆了分辨率测试这里，DP的原话是：
Olympus promised that the E-5 would give excellent resolution, and it does....
当然，这些颇为正面的褒赞用20号的小字藏在不起眼的地方。
DP没有做到像O粉一样跳起来用强烈的对比图展示：“啊哈，来看一看面对3000多线的解析，其它神马都是浮云。”
我觉得用这一点来指责DP，不够充分和客观。
DP真正错误的是E-5的JPEG得分

不甘心啊，强忍眼皮打架，就是不睡

估计下一个亮点是骚尼的a77，E口的24/1.7 ZA不知道有啥新机身来陪衬

三少这个35mm控应该也会有兴趣的吧？

三少有所不知，公主的限量是指每年产量有限，这个淫K5是总共就出1500部

我再买机还是要基本满足300dpi出A3+的需求，所以想想E5还是有些残念

松下的专业M4/3机身据说也被推迟了

全幅那么多年了还是这几个

真没啥好玩的了？

那就先洗洗吧。

管它预订单呢，想买总买的到的
以前公主头不是号称限量版的吗？

话说回来，以O在JPEG上的功力，DP居然给分和RAW一样低，我也想骂几句。

E-P3如果还是1200万像素就洗洗睡吧...

[蒻羽 编辑于 2011-02-14 19:10]

～dpr就不怕信誉受损啊，上次NEX评测已经被索粉喷了个狗血淋头了

O记在EPL2上还是留了一手，仍然是V引擎而不是E5的V+，低通弱化了多少也不得而知~估计是要留给EP3

很符合生存法则，一般没有名气的小厂，才会对行业老大进行强烈抨击，一方面博得点击率，第二方面争取一线大厂的广告赞助。

O要是能拿到新传感器，肯定不会在这块儿上死啃，也是无奈之举啊。

虽然这位老兄原文绕来绕去的，但这翻译也太差劲儿了，跟谷歌有的一拼。

Dpreview刚刚出的E-PL2的全面评测里头也提到了同样的减弱低通，GH2的LMOS如果能用在E-P3上估计就能PK全幅5d2的分辨率了，可惜松下不会那么轻易把自己的优势放手的...