dpreview果然黑了E5
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[10 楼] 三少爷
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11-2-14 18:51
原文由 金子博 在2011-02-14 18:44发表 E5用的感光芯片和EP1是同一块松下12mpx LMOS,O记优化了低通滤镜,并升级了图形引擎 |
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[9 楼] 金子博
[资深泡菜]
11-2-14 18:44
O自己会做传感器?
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[8 楼] 三少爷
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11-2-14 18:30
原文由 tommy5210 在2011-02-14 17:59发表 其实关于分辨率,dpr在E5测试结论部分欲语还羞地进行赞扬....看样子网站还是不敢得罪NC大厂 http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/olympuse5/page14.asp Olympus has managed to squeeze more resolution out of it than we would have thought possible. Low ISO shots taken in good light are outstandingly detailed... The resolution of the E-5's sensor in ideal conditions is higher than we'd expect from a camera with this sort of pixel count and, viewed at 100%, the quality of some of our samples is simply breathtaking. |
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[7 楼] appleman911
[泡菜]
11-2-14 18:24
同样的传感器E5超越E3不是一点点。。。。。CN太不思上进了。出了这么多传感器没见到画质好多少,钱倒是黑了不少。。我看新的传感器就是个黑钱的借口!如果尼康有这个决心吧一块传感器像奥林巴斯一样开发透,那照样是神器。
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[6 楼] tommy5210
[泡菜]
11-2-14 17:59
如果能重新做个测试,把数据拿出来会更有说服力
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[5 楼] 三少爷
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11-2-14 17:59
原文由 大树迎风 在2011-02-14 17:55发表 转贴的 ~英文好的直接看英文吧 |
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[4 楼] 大树迎风
[资深泡菜]
11-2-14 17:55
三少,翻译是不是太随心所欲了些?
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[3 楼] 三少爷
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11-2-14 17:51
原文由 digilux3 在2011-02-14 17:40发表 why? 看看热闹不是挺好吗 |
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[2 楼] digilux3
[泡菜]
11-2-14 17:40
要看破要放下!
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[1 楼] 三少爷
[4/3-M4/3论坛版主]
11-2-14 17:39
刚看到的,一个洋O粉痛骂dpreview在E5测试中的猫腻...哈哈
亮点是dpr的确测出了E5的分辨率,但是没敢把结果和另外3台机器做对比....因为E5爆了dpr的分辨率测试表... ![]() 43网的yescooling 做了简要翻译,转贴过来,有兴趣的看看... 三人成虎,可怜的O O 一向不会做市场,大家都知道的。手上有料,却不知道如何表达。真理掌握在少数人手里,所以凡夫俗子只能依靠网络的评测,互相之间的传递来衡量相机,系统。E5 真的那么差么。 可能国内的兄弟姐妹们不太有时间逛国外的论坛。 有个叫DPREIVEW的,现在被O粉骂的狗血淋头。 知道为什么么,看看这个哥哥的解释。我一句英文,一句中文的解释。这些是原话,我稍后附加网址,英语好的兄弟姐妹自己去查。 http://www.flickr.com/groups/olympusesystem/discuss/72157625884440527/ "I'm a long time reader of DP review and even though DP generally favors the most popular cameras in Nov of 07 I selected the Olympus E-3 as I moved away from film. My prior SLR of choice was Nikon for my wedding events and travel. I opted for the E-3 because where I shoot the going gets very tough with rain, sand, salt spray, dust, and just plain camera killing elements. I also selected E-3 because of overall less bulk and a full frame 4/3 format that more closely matches standard photo frame print size without much if any cropping. 我是DP的忠实听众,从DP中意很多名牌大厂时候,我仍旧与11月7日选择了E3,是E3让我告别了电影摄像。其实我的最初选择是尼康为了婚礼和旅行摄影。我选择E3,是因为我的拍摄场地大部分要和雨,沙滩,盐幕,灰尘,还有其他一切能把相机送入维修的条件打交道。还有个原因,就是4/3系统的体积及画面的利用程度和我的需求非常接近。 Olympus has always been the new horizon leader opting to place seemingly gadet type options on their cameras to be criticized by reviewers like DP as being semi-pro or consumer but would later end up in pro camera bodies. Now Olympus has all but eliminated the AA filter and others will soon follow. O一直都是改革的先锋,而且批评也是来自普通大众。最后由旗舰出场把被砸的场子拿回来。现在O对E5进行了AA修改,其他家肯定会模仿。 As you read DP's final review take note of careful wording that skirts around the new E-5 bodies stellar features like weather sealing as being the class leader. Yes Nikon and Canon that were used to compare have a modest amount of weather sealing but they also have a weak link like the pop up flash. Any camera is only as good as its weakest link when it comes to weather sealing. In my travels when it rains I get the shots and those fellow travelers with Nikon or Canon run for cover. 如果你读了DP的最后一些语句,你会发现DP承认E5的机身耐操程度是这个级别的老大。是的,尼康和佳能机身也不错,但是也有这样那样的缺点,例如防水比较差的内闪也许就是放水了。 当我旅游拍摄的时候,下雨天对我OK,可惜C N的玩家却到处跑路找地方为相机遮雨。 DP's final review testing confirms the E-5 has the second best standard DR of the four models compared, with Nikon taking the lead in highlights, but with the E-5 leading in the shadows. Engage DR added depth software in all models and then the E-5 has the widest DR of all four. So to say the E-5 lacks in DR goes against DP's own testing. Taking DP's review to another level by researching past reviews of say the Canon Mark 5II and comparing it to the E-5 you will find that the E-5 beats the Canon Mark in total DR as well. (重点)DP的最后测试确认, E5是综合第二好的机身(4个当中),尼康那款第一。但是E5阴影部分领先,如果大家都是用机内自带软件,提升动态范围的话,E5是第一。E5的确动态范围不够(不开提升的话),但是在测试中也不是垫底的。DP说E5动态不够,是搬石头砸自己脚。如果仔细的回顾下佳能 Mark 5II,你会发现E5动态范围秒杀他。 Next point DP evaluated resolution very well and indicates very sharp images with very high lines of resolution in JPEG as well as RAW. However, DP failed to compare the E-5 to the other models with the resolution charts. In prior reviews DP generally compares all models in the review for resolution. DP elected to omit resolution comparision in their final review. If you research DP's prior reviews of the cameras compared you will find the E-5 beats the Nikon and Canon as well as the Pentax used in comparison. DP的确正确的测试出了E5的分辨率,无论是在JPG还是RAW. 但是DP 却不肯将E5与其他的型号进行对比!以前的测试,DP不都是习惯这么做的吗?如果DP敢这么做,哼哼。。。。就会发现E5秒杀其他三款。 Olympus glass is class leading and half the bulk of Nikon and Canon. So on closer examination of the wording in the DP review you will note that few words indicate just how more compact the E-5 is as compared to the competition when you attach a lens. (这句有点废话 我不翻译了 鬼都知道4/3镜头体积小,光学性能不错) Lastly with the DP resolution evaluation they used default settings for JPEG and produced slightly over 2600 lines. I wonder what the resolution lines would be with the JPEG setting as super fine Vs default. 最后分辨的测试有点不全,出场设置的情况下JPG2600线,如果修改下会有表现呢? JPEG color is where you want it right out of the camera. But then if you want to spend your life in post buy the Nikon or Canon. If you spend most of your time above say ISO 2000 and love to sit in front of your PC than Nikon or Canon is for you. However, if you want to be a photographer and not a darkroom technician go another direction. Also don't forget to carry a plastic bag to protect your investment. (这句也有点废话) O出色彩,CN需要后期。如果你时间比较多,喜欢对着电脑修改,或者你的拍摄条件大部分都是ISO2000以上,那么使用CN吧。当然,如果你喜欢照相,而不是当暗房工作人员,你不妨考虑下O。最后1句忠告,勤带雨伞,为你的相机镜头。 Depth of field: Many people like the effect of the more shallow depth of field from a 35mm lens. However, most other manufacturers lens selection isn't as fast as that from Olympus. I'm not saying the faster Olympus creates the exact same effect as 35mm format with a slighly slower lens but I tell you that sometimes you really need the extra depth of field especiall in low light. Example at a recent wedding there were two professional photographers assigned to the event. One was me and the other a friend with Canon gear. The Canon failed to capture the proper depth of field detail for the rign and hand shot. My E-5 with 12-60mm locked on very sharp in low available light at ISO 1600 with not issue. The other professional took at least a dozen shots and I took two with both being just fine for the final photo delivery to the couple. The Canon photographer asked me to take the shot as his camera was failing to provide sufficient depth of field. (累了不翻译了) The key feature of the E-5 is the much weaker AA filter. Olympus has once again opened up new territory with the much weaker AA filter. I'm certain all other manufacturers as we speak are back at the drawing board trying to copy what Olympus has done with the E-5. (累了) Olympus has now matched lens and body for a nearly perfect world as DP mildly indicates with their resolution testing especially with RAW exceeding perfect Nyquist limits unlike Nikon and Canon falling short of the objective. DP review did a very good job of pointing out how sharp the E-5 is, but failed to compare that testing to the other cameras in the review. Being silent over such a critical comparison makes me wonder why they failed to include such comparison when a resolution comparison is generally included with prior DP reviews in models past. I strongly feel DP should establish standard review coverage for the written word just as they have for their bench testing. 这个重点,E5的分辨率测试已经把DP的标准爆了。。It exceeds the perfect limit. The E-5 sensor is a 2008 vintage which tells me Olympus had time to perfect the process and not rush to market. As for me I'm a 1948 vintage and just sold all of my Nikon film equipment and will be heading for Cambodia very soon during the rain season and maybe next year the Amazon. My new E-5 has already taken wedding photos without flash at ISO 1600 and 2500 very well. Sometimes you have to have the courage not to be a sheep. Will Rodgers once said "we are all ignorant, just on different subjects". DP's wording was carefully thought out but clearly indicates they like Nikon a great deal. To omit facts is the same as not being totally truthful. " 最后一句貌似对CMOS的无奈,看来巧妇难为无米之炊啊。 |
