一些国产光刻头。1970年代生产。

一些尼康工业镜头的价格。资料来自网上。。。一只28/1.7 光刻头的价格相当于5.5套 尼康大F 加 F1.4 镜头。

本帖最后由 Kievuser 于 2017-4-17 16:05 编辑

目前为止拍卖价最高的尼康镜头？

惊人的拍卖结果：第28届WestLicht相机拍卖会

一枚价值156000欧元的“鱼眼”镜头



成交率达到了惊人的91%，成交价远高于拍品估价：徕卡与尼康的珍稀摄影器材在第28届WestLicht相机拍卖会上展现了它们对藏家一贯的吸引力。在激烈的国际买家竞价中，许多拍品都获得了惊人的、远远高于起拍价的成交价。这次拍卖会全部573件拍品的起拍价总额约为九十二万欧元，最终的成交价总额却达到了约二百万欧元，这意味着这次拍卖会的成交价比率为115%。

以14000欧元起拍的一台1959年产黑漆徕卡M3型相机拍出了惊人的40800欧元高价，另一台徕卡ＭＰ型相机“中※※民※※※建国６０年纪念版”则从15000欧元拍到了48000欧元。一台为瑞典军队制造的黑色徕卡IIIg型相机由16000欧元起拍，最终被一位买家以40800欧元买下。一枚1980年产的Leica M型增距接环，从2000欧元起拍，最终以16800欧元成交。

拍卖会的高潮出现在尼康拍品系列。一位藏家用156000欧元买下了著名的Nikkor f5.6/6.2mm SAP鱼眼镜头，这种镜头的产量只有3枚（起拍价20000欧元）。另一台黑色尼康S3M型相机（起拍价26000欧元）拍出了惊人的60000欧元，之后的一枚Strereo-Nikkor立体镜头（起拍价30000欧元）则拍出了54000的高价。在具有※※意义的老相机中，一台1865年产的Luxus Megalethoskop从15000欧元起拍，最终以45600欧元成交。

（以上所有成交价已含佣金。）



第13届WestLicht摄影作品拍卖会，2015年11月20日

Carl Zeiss S-Biogon 40mm f/5.6 . no chromatic aberrations, no distortions. Within the visible spectrums, they are all virtually eliminated. This Zeiss of West German's lens was born to do micro-documentation job. The lens optimized for 7x-30x magnification at wide-open, fix-aperture. Go checkout "The 10 steps to take the high quality picture" page of Zeiss.com . This is the best enlarging lens ever used in the labs. The new tag price of 20,000 USD. up. Zeiss no longer made this lens. Once you touch and feel the weight you would see how expensive to produce such lens.

资料

“Conclusion: Clearly, both these Leica '50s” are fine performaers that , to a great extent, justify their lengendary status. They are beautifully made and , not surprisingly, carry princely prices,especially the f2.8 Elmar. which is produced in small quantities and is the only collapsible 50mm lens in current production. No, neither of these German optical jewels will blow their competors into the weeds; going strictly by the numbers, a handful of Japanese 50mm lenses for SLRs actually edge them out. What really matters is that the Summicron-M and theElmar-M are top-level performers and among the best lenses that can be fitted to an M-series Leica."

1996.11- Popular Photography  

Canon V  1956  15,575 produced - rarest versions black paint, warm gold RF image, knob film rewind
Canon L-1 1957 Lever advance version of Canon V  7,975 produced - rarest versions black paint
Canon L-2  1956 Lever advance version of Canon V with top speed of 1/500  7,350 produced
Canon L-3 1957 Lever advance version of Canon V with top speed of 1/500 and no sync  12.975 produced
Canon VT Deluxe VTD  1957 improved Canon V with lever film rewind 3,475 produced
Canon VT Deluxe VTDZ  1957 added magazine opening base plate key 4,875 produced
Canon VT Deluxe VTDM 1958 cold silver RF image, stainless steel shutter, 2,550 produced
Canon VL 1957 lever advance version of VTDM, 5,450  produced
Canon VL2 1958, a VL with 1/500 top speed  8,450 produced
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Guote from CameraQuest.

本来想买一台佳能-7 旁轴，当年只比大名鼎鼎的徕卡M-3便宜32英镑（1963），却发现一台品相完美的 1950年代的佳能VL-2旁轴。在美国和欧洲市场相当少见的品种。

1963-64 M3 price.

It's always interesting, after a few decades, to look at what we pay for things now, and what they cost new. Recently I found my Wallace Heaton Blue Book from 1963-64 and it confirmed my memory of the price of the Kiev 4 at a bit over ￡48. What I had forgotten was that this was nearly three times the price of the Zorki 6 and around twice the price of the Fed 2 and 3. Nor had I remembered the price of Werras: the Werra V was even more expensive than the Kiev, which may be why they're so rare today. The aperture-coupled meter added almost ￡17, just under 30 per cent, to the price of the otherwise identical Werra III. To convert prices to 2017 levels using UK price indices, multiply by at least 15:  you're looking at ￡750 for the Kiev. In 1963, ￡48:15:0d would have been $136.50, so with the 15x multiplier call it a good bit over $2000. ....................

The XE-1, a close relative
of the Leica R3. image by rst90274
The Minolta Camera Co. entered in 1972 an agreement with Ernst Leitz GmbH, to share patents, know-how and product development, possibly Kazuo Tashima's crown achievement late in his life. He travelled Europe before founding in 1928 what later became the Minolta Camera Co., and the German camera industry had made a profound impression on him back then. The first camera to emerge from this joint venture was the Leica CL in 1973. Next came this camera, also assisted by the Copal Company for the development of the vertical running metal blade shutter. The German Leica R3 version was introduced by Leitz in 1976, and produced in Portugal, after a short run at Wetzlar.

The exposure system is based on the well-proven CLC circuit, originally introduced on the SR-T 101, and refined by the X-1. The electronically controlled shutter has manually selectable speeds from 4 sec. to 1/1000 sec., and a backup mechanical 1/90 sec. and B. The shutter-speed dial locks in the A position, easily released by a tiny button reached when gripping the dial. The film speed is set on a dial surrounding the rewind knob. A small button just next to the black finder housing releases the ASA-dial. The value is set against an index dot to the right. To the left on the same dial is an exposure compensation scale of ±2 EV, which may easily be set depressing an almost invisible button on the dial edge.

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An XE-1 with fast portrait Rokkor,
image by rokkor777
The viewfinder is quite bright and uncluttered with a centre split-image range finder. The layout is similar to the X-1, but the shutter speed scale to the right is brought closer to the image area and is much easier to read. The exposure-meter hand moves across the available speeds, brightly backlit by the SLR view extending beyond the image area. The lens aperture ring setting is visible just 。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。

XK（XM）相机数据：

　　基本数据--1972年面世，与1971年发表的Nikon F2，Canon F-1等相机产品平行的机型。

　　快门--电子控制焦平面钛合金快门叶片；电磁快门可支持16 ~1/2000s自动曝光控制下的无级调节与4 ~1/2000s的手动快门速度设定；并带有两档机械式快门1/100s的X档及B门。快门响应时间9ms。

　　测光--使用双CDS测光元件，测光元件位于相机五棱镜反光镜后方。测光方式为TTL光圈全开测光，CLC曝光对比补偿配合测光。支持收缩光圈测光。

　　曝光范围--ASA100，f/1.2标准下EV1 ~17。相当于f/1.4光圈在1s快门下至f/8光圈在1/2000s快门下。

　　曝光补偿---0.5EV ~3.5EV，1/2增减。

　　多重曝光--相机倒片释放键兼做多重曝光选择键。

　　胶片范围--ASA12 ~6400。

　　反光镜--特大型即返式反光镜，带有反光镜锁定功能。

　　取景器--固定眼平五棱镜取景器，取景范围近似于24 x36mm胶片面积的98%；放大倍率为50mm镜头聚焦无穷远下的0.8x。

　　取景器内容--取景器上方显示光圈直读信息；右侧竖列式刻度指针信息显示系统显示相机快门速度设定，包括M模式下手动设定快门速度与相机提供的推荐快门速度，及自动曝光模式下快门速度设定；有曝光补偿开启警告等信息显示。

　　聚焦屏--标准聚焦屏P屏，为磨砂面带有水平裂像测距圆心。此外提供8种可更换聚焦屏。

卷片系统--20°预备角，110°过片。

　　闪光同步--通过X接点连接的电子闪灯同步速度为1/100s；通过FP接点连接可实现全部1/2000s下的速度。

　　自拍机--手柄式控制，6 ~10s可选择时间设定。

　　电源--两枚1.5v氧化银纽扣电池提供电源。电池缺电时，过片系统会被锁定。

　　尺寸重量--84 x147.5 x48mm；670g

1972年，市场上出现了Canon EF，Pentax ES，Nikkormat EL等拥有一定自动功能的高级消费型相机。虽然当时Minolta已经推出了XK，但是做为专业型相机推出的XK并不适合所有用户。

　　为了迎合市场需要，Minolta联合Leica与Copal共同开发了XE-7(XE-1)。

　　XE-7拥有Leica-Copal提供的，垂直移动静音式电子机械混合控制快门。这与Minolta一贯采用的横走式快门完全不同。快门在自动模式下具有4 ~1/1000s速度；手动模式下具有1 ~1/1000s及B门的速度。支持光圈优先自动曝光及手动曝光。

　　在外形上，XE-7更象是一架SRT系列产品，只是要更大更重。相机的聚焦屏也使用了类似SRT102相机的聚焦屏，这让许多老用户颇有好感。只是，在取景器显示内容上做了修改，以适应更新的年代。

　　取景内容上，在取景器顶部※※光圈直读窗口右侧是手动快门速度窗口，显示手动模式下设定的快门速度；而同时在取景器右侧竖列快门速度刻度上，一只指针会根据相机提供的推荐快门速度自动匹配到相应速度刻度上。自动模式下手动快门速度窗口显示A以标明目前的曝光模式，竖列快门速度刻度上的指针会自动匹配快门速度。

　　XE-7相机拥有被认为是最出色的取景信息显示系统。相机在手动曝光模式下所提供的光圈与快门速度信息，无疑是全面而准确的。加上相机的推出快门速度，为获得更准确曝光提供了方便。而在Minolta后期的相机中，手动曝光模式下的快门速度窗口被取消，这使得用户很难确定当前相机快门速度的真实设定。

　　在功能上，XE-7更象是XK专业相机被取消了可更换组件的微缩版。相机拥有与XK相机完全相同的景深预览，可调整时间的自拍机，加减2度的曝光补偿，电池检测等。

　　因为使用了电子快门，XE-7存在与XK相机同样的，对电池的依赖。只是当XE-7相机的电池缺电时，相机会自动锁上反光镜，以免使用者获得错误曝光。当然，在拥有其它测光条件下，也可使用相机的B门或1/60s的X档的备用机械快门来继续完成拍摄。

　　XE-7被认为是35mm相机中最优秀的设计，最完美的产品。Leica也曾依据XE-7型相机生产了其Leica R3型相机。而Minolta也根据XE-7开发了后续产品XE-5。

　　之后，随着一些体积更小重量更轻功能更强大的新机型如Pentax ME，Olympus OM-2的上市，Minolta也开始设计推出XD-11。在市场上存在了3年的XE-7被正式停止生产。

XE-7的确是一架十分优秀的相机。只是，它太重了，难以在新的产品竞争中取胜。为了应对Pentax ME及Olympus OM-2的挑战，1977年Minolta推出了体型小巧的XD-11。这款相机的欧洲市场编号XD-7。
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胶片机现在十分便宜，应该收一些有特点的早期日本产高档单反。

1962 prices from Soviet book by Bunimovitch "Camera choice".
Keiv-Vega - 22руб.50 коп. Smena - 11руб, Smena-2 13 руб, Smena-5 - 9 руб. Smena-6 13 руб. 50 коп. Zarya - 27 руб. Unost 27 руб. Zorki-С 28 руб, Zorki-2С with Industar 30 руб. Zorki-4 with Jupiter 61 руб. Zorki-5 with Industar-50 28 руб. Zorki-6 with I-50 43 руб. Fed-2 with I-10 26 руб. Mir with I-50 35 руб, with J-8 48 руб. Drug - 70 руб. Kiev 111А (если 83 руб. Kiev 4А -115 руб. Kiev 4 - 125 руб. Leningrad 125 руб. Zenit-С 50 руб. Zenit-3 80 руб. Start -130 руб!!! Lubitel-2 10 руб. Lubitel 8 руб. Estafeta - 24 руб. Unikor 6 руб. 50 коп. Iskra 85 руб. Moskva-4 24 руб. Moskvа - 5 26 руб. Salut - 400 руб (!) FT-2 43 руб. Sputnik - 26 руб. Narziss - 85 руб (suggested).

Руб is Rubl. Коп is kopeyka (1 Rubl is 100 Kopeyek).
Average monthly salary in 1962 - 84 RUB.

In seventies prices went up due to new models. But they kept same manufacturing, pricing strategy.
Cameras like Lubitel and Smena were very affordable. Zorki, FED were one, half-salary range. SLRs and Kiev more expensive. Medium format was even more expensive.
Salut-S was 435 RUB in 1979, monthly average salary 150 RUB.

早年苏联相机的价格

Canon lens datecode

Beside the rear lens mount of many Canon lenses is a date code in the form of "UT0805".  The first letter, "U", indicates that the lens was made in Canon's Utsunomiya, Japan factory.  The second letter, "T", is a year code that indicates the year of manufacture. Canon increments this letter each year starting with A in 1986 and prior to that, A in 1960 without the leading factory code. The first two numbers "08" indicates the month that this lens was manufactured in. Month 08 is August, month 11 is November. . The next two number "05", are meaningless in determining how old a Canon lens is. This is a Canon internal code. Here is an example and a list to make things simple:

Example: UT0805

U= Utsunomiya, Japan factory; T=2005; 08=August; 05= Canon internal code meanigless

A = 1986, 1960
B = 1987, 1961
C = 1988, 1962
D = 1989, 1963
E = 1990, 1964
F = 1991, 1965
G = 1992, 1966
H = 1993, 1967
I = 1994, 1968
J = 1995, 1969
K = 1996, 1970
L = 1997, 1971
M = 1998, 1972
N = 1999, 1973
O = 2000, 1974
P = 2001, 1975
Q = 2002, 1976
R = 2003, 1977
S = 2004, 1978
T = 2005, 1979
U = 2006, 1980
V = 2007, 1981
W = 2008, 1982
X = 2009, 1983
Y = 2010, 1984
Z = 2011, 1985
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PS. Lens date code indicates the date of a lens manufactured, but it does not necessarily mean the years of lens usage, it is not uncommon for a lens sitting in a retail store for 1-2 years.

Financial Times 的 文章，关于我在中国机械表论坛的朋友 Ron Good先生.

https://www.ft.com/content/f565c570-b7bf-11e6-961e-a1acd97f622d

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f72/financial-times-visits-amchpr-3946778-2.html 本帖最后由 Kievuser 于 2017-1-20 12:47 编辑

珠江S-201相机的※※。

http://bbs.qinzhou360.com/read.php?ordertype=desc&tid=279245

徕卡1960年的价格。当时一辆不错的轿车也不过2,000多美元。

出口款的距离刻度是英制的。机身号刻在倒片钮上。

近年来收藏古典相机的趋势是细分款式。同样的徕卡M3, 或Nikon I型的收藏价都相差很大。
Contax II 的出口款据我观察比普通款少见得多。或许将来收藏价也会不同。

这台金色的珠江S-201也是厂家的产品。是早期的S-201. 比较特殊。

这几天翻出了床底下多年没动过的几台国产老相机。其中 一台据说是海鸥DF-7型。是上海DF-7后的第一款。产量不太多。

In response to continued enthusiasm from cinematographers and demand by rental houses for Cooke Optics’ vintage Speed Panchro lenses from the 1920s-1960s, Cooke introduces a new series of Panchro Classics based on the original design, with PL mounts and modern mechanics. The Panchro Classic line is scheduled to ship around April 2017.

The original Cooke Speed Panchro, designed by Horace W. Lee in the 1920s, was the first to combine an f/2.0 aperture with fully corrected color and geometry. The Jazz Singer (1927) and other talkies created a demand for these fast lenses. Noisy arc lamps could not be used, the lights that replaced them weren’t as bright, and frame rate increased from silent 16 or 18 fps to talkie 24 fps—a decrease of about 1/2 stop exposure. Studios snapped up the new Cooke f/2.0 (T2.3) lenses. These were the now-legendary uncoated Cooke Speed Panchros.

In 1945, Cooke introduced the Speed Panchro Series II lens, designed by Gordon Cook. They had an anti-reflective coating and came in 6 focal lengths: 18, 25, 32, 40, 50 and 75mm.

Les Zellan, Chairman and Owner, Cooke Optics, said, “People still love the look they get from the old Speed Panchros, but they are hard to find—and if you can find them, you have to remount them for today’s cameras. Therefore, we have taken the original Speed Panchro design and created a new housing to fit the PL mount. The new lenses will have the same look and feel that people love about the originals.”

What makes these lenses different from rehoused Panchros? In addition to modern mechanics, lens mounts, cam focus and uniform front diameters, they all cover S35 image circles—approx 30mm diagonal. (Original Panchros covered Standard 35 Academy format. ) They will also come standard with the new Cooke Multi System — in PL, EF, E, F, MFT.

The Cooke Panchro Classics all have a front diameter of 110mm — like the majority of S4/i and 5/i primes.

本帖最后由 Kievuser 于 2016-12-27 18:20 编辑

S-Orthoplanar
Description: Repro-Lens; 7 Lenses in 5 Groups; object - image distance: 1913mm @ 30:1; 715mm @ 10:1; resolution of up to 360lpm center, else 120...150lpm @ 5.6!! Up to 32x45mm image format. Built into a Steinheil, Muenchen, Macro-S-Quinar body w. double extending helicoid by a skilled mechanic; M40 Adapter; Lens itself has M32x0,75 screw mount; 7 Lenses in 5 Groups; exact focal length 59,9mm.
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来自KDS网站的资料。

据说是比较少见的国产相机。

后期该厂生产的同类镜头。改开后就再也见不到了。

          锯齿反了。。。。。。。。。

kievuser wrote:

How doest it compare to CZJ 60/4 and other UV lenses for image quality?

Very well, certainly above the CZJ 60/4 as it shows no focus difference!! Meaning,
it is an APO lens reaching into UV (I saw no focus difference UV-VIS-IR)
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Klaus - Moderator

他对我问题的答复。同样规格的镜头常见，但不是UV镜头。

某德国镜头收藏家的稀有镜头。据说只有一只试制品。

本帖最后由 Kievuser 于 2016-12-10 15:56 编辑

这个滤色镜像是某种天然材料。而且不透明。后期该厂也生产过一种带深绿色滤色镜的同类光刻头。此类产品属于核心技术。西方是不会转让，或出售的。

以前我还没见过此类镜头。希望懂得的专家能解惑。

几天没来又见稀罕物——翡翠镜头？