呵呵，评判东西的功能不是只靠价格的，拿着电影头拍照片，就是典型的事倍功半。 本帖最后由 daniellor 于 2012-4-24 14:25 编辑

用处都不一样，就像宝马没货车拉得多。

22万买MP，还不如买LEICA S2 加一支人像头了。 不知道楼主是要怎样拍人像，我是觉得用手动头太折磨我的家人或者模特，更何况拿一支像大炮一样的镜头玩MF。

不喜欢徕卡就加点钱买ROLLEI 6008 + 后背 + 施奈德镜头， 也不错啊。

中画幅的像场带来的那种大气平和的感觉，轻易秒杀135的。

求助，电视剧《神医喜来乐》使用啥镜头景深外呈黑白色，人面部模糊一篇。

我现在在思考佳能新的24-70L II，颜色是不是能达到zeissZF25级，要能真想换门啊，变焦真方便呀。

刚看了http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?71717-FINALLY!!!-Got-my-Canon-mounts-and-just-tested-the-hell-out-of-it!那个帖子,其中一段说佳能50L居然比zeiss MP50/T1.3还sharp。
Ketch, I'll never take what you say the wrong way.
So all is cool.
We are all big boys, been around for years, shot everything from 10x8 t0 super 8... been there done that. Made our millions... So its ok to share with me some of your thoughts and experiences.

Regarding the Master primes, 50mm Canon back to back we did (and only for a bit of fun) ... nobody was more agasp more than me... I was just bragging to every with me at the time that the Master primes will eat the canon for breakfast... we shot the same thing, put it up on a huge projector and a 2.4 screen, ZOOMed up to 100% 200% 400% 800%... quite literally made a fool of myself because there was not a single bit of difference... on the edges included. That was @ f8.
If I cut the slate of the front, you would think it was from the same lens.

The worst was about to come, both lenses were set to f1.2 for the canon, f1.3 for the master prime... Ouch. The Canon was sharper.
Sorry mate.... Proof is in the pudding....

Mind you! Here me out...

I have had many lenses from nikon, Arri, and Canon over the years, (to many) And quite often I have swapped them out. I went through 3 different 600m F4's before I got a sharp one. 2 - 4002.8's 4 - 16 to 35's before I got a sharp one, 2 - 50mm 1.2's before I get a sharp one..... and I have never been able to send back my soft 18mm Ultra prime.. or soft 18 and 24mm Ziess... We had a soft 29 - 290 soft one day.. so not all lenses are built the same.

Regarding Leica glass... Well. Only the crazy rich will ever know the quality of Leica.

Regarding hanging my EPIC off the 600mm... Seriously does not worry it, but would hate to drop it... thats when it gets messy. But I doupt Ill do it again anyway, becuase it was out of balance. I'm going to make a rig to balance it.

At the end of the day, we all have done our personal testing, some more than others. I went into my canon lens testing only for a laugh... As plastic toy lenses have never floated my boat... but surprise surprise... Reminds me of when I got my first RED 5 years ago. We only bought it to replace a DV CANON XL1... hahahahaha... What we got was another shock.

So life goes on...

http://www.filmaker.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=15968&extra=page%3D1%26filter%3Dtypeid%26typeid%3D15&page=2
这套镜头我也倒腾过，羞涩的说，这个帖子里面提到的镜头除了COOKE S41我没买过，基本上我都买过了，卖过了，使过了。 有些观点是支持VV的说，国人喜欢UP，不见得是真的懂UP，说直白点，我是摄影师，我也是器材租赁商，我经常有接到电话租赁器材，一开口就是要租UP，我问，这个器材清单是摄影师开的还是制片，大部分都是制片，即使是摄影师开的，不夸张地说，大部分的刚入门的摄影师，连什么是UP都不知道。只是人云亦云的，别人都用UP，那自己就用UP吧，实际上他除了UP，也不知道还有什么镜头。

http://www.filmaker.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=15968&extra=page%3D1%26filter%3Dtypeid%26typeid%3D15&page=2
北京新影厂旁边有个挺有名的器材租赁公司，去年花二十几万买了一组共七只CP.2镜头，租了几次客户反映意见不小，最后老板趁更多人对此镜头还不太了解之机，索性以十八万元价格将这七只CP.2镜头一次性处理了。永远记住在这个世界上是没有任何一个人愿意做亏本生意的，尤其是以此养家糊口的器材租赁商。
其实这个原因非常简单，使用CP.2的人心里需求是电影镜头的技术特性，但此镜头的技术特征是照相机镜头的。
其实照相机镜头干照相机的事是最合适不过。
就像让一台拖拉机干拖拉机的事是最合适不过的，你给他换上跑车轮胎和跑车外形其本质还是拖拉机。甭管你卖到了与以前几倍的价钱，如果按跑车的心里要求其实会很受伤。
CP.2本质核心其实完全是一次技术投机加市场投机的产物。
不过敢于尝试其实也未见得是一件坏事。

three
new products they
were going to reveal.

http://www.fdtimes.com/pdfs/45FDTimes-LoRez150.pdf
zeiss有意生产新的CP.2了明年.
Anamorphics, Zooms and Primes. Carl Zeiss has an ambitious new roadmap.
Zooms Join Compact Cine Lens Line
We're Back in the Anamorphic Lens Business

这个太骚了！！！！

哈哈 这是山寨，，，，

标记一个。。。？？？？？？。。

隔壁回过了,这是一个普通的摄影头改造的,80-200头,大约是nikon.

这个镜头如何

我突然觉得,喜欢佳能85L 50L 24L的人可以搞搞这三支的佳能C电影头,还能长时间使用,还能转接,不用担心马达坏掉等等.

翻墙看了看,貌似还真是有不少进步的.

ZF35/2穿了身铠甲 哈哈哈~~~~ 不过颜色比ZF35好很多，边角比中心稍差些。

这里有人测过。

http://www.slrlensreview.com/web/carl-zeiss-slr-lenses-51/wide-angle-slr-lenses-93/790-carl-zeiss-cp2-distagon-t-35mm-t21-ze-.html

cp.2算个鸟,不就是ZF35/2穿了身铠甲么，光学怎么能和summilux 35mm(Floating Element)相提并论，莱卡流情何以堪了阿.要想和summilux 35mm(Floating Element)比,怎么也要16万的zeiss MP 35T1.3了或者莱卡自己的S-C35T1.4

昨晚俺忽然想 那个全世界缺货导致建议零售价$4995,而二手价格却要6~7K的leica summilux 35mm(Floating Element) , 俺很田鸡赛马的想,是不是如果不怕镜头体积大,其实zeiss cp.2 35mm $3900的价格更实惠些,image quality更好些? 熊台见谁横向比过哇?

http://www.filmaker.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=13004&extra=page%3D1
我懒得读英文了,不过 Aaton, Arri, Panavision已陆续停止生产胶片摄影机
http://magazine.creativecow.net/article/film-fading-to-black

是这样啊，前段玩个zeiss战前无膜白头，因为里面状态特别好，不仅不会见光死，没遮光罩大太阳下毫无畏惧。

任何德国造镜头都没兴趣.

蔡司要出ZF 15/2.8和25/2了，JLC爷有没有兴趣？

5k EPIC FF @ 96n fps testing Cooke Panchro-i 50mm

我还是在思考,是买便宜的panchro/i50呢,还是买一个S4i 21 or 35呢,还是直接砸一个狠的来一个安琴15-40

最外面如果反射了光
就往外射向環境去了
內部彼此之間的反射
才會到達焦平面產生眩光

他的重點是在色調

见光死是我解释的,怕国人听不懂,其实就是第一片最外侧的一个面没镀膜,增加一些眩光罢了,看着比较有古典的眩光效果.cooke还提供更换业务,只要有经过培训的技师,就能随意更换镀膜和不带镀膜的镜片,有点像换卡口,这样说来,第一片镜子是很容易更换的,即使你时间长了,镜片磨损了,也可以很容易地更换第一片镜片,是个延长镜头寿命的非常好的方法.

FDT的解釋不太正確
內部反射最容易見光死
可是他內部還是有鍍膜
只有前鏡片是沒鍍滴
他真正重點是在色調

同志,PL的像面距是52mm,比莱卡R都长6mm呢,你得算清楚了,再短,也能和莱卡M50/2比比.