因為只有MP65設計和兄弟不同
他的結構比較像傳統設計修改
有四片如今透光不好的鉛玻璃

可以斷念了吧
先從常見鏡頭入手如何?

原来老版的更夸张，SS MK III

电影头真够难伺候的，屁股都露在外边，也不怕PP挂彩。

zeiss官网里有介绍UP镜头使用经验几个PDF，其中一个（lebanon.pdf）说的是在一个假※※里拍电影的，这里便有一段，说UP确实比MP要软一些，毕竟UP没说用那么多非球面和更多的特种材料。
The decision was easy because I simply love ZEISS Ultra Prime lenses.
I love the colors. In addition, the lenses have a certain softness versus the ZEISS Master Prime lenses, which I seldom use. The Master Prime lenses are not really my taste.

不过对比一下价格，感觉UP价格其实挺高的，2006年，带LDS的UP65卖11350欧，MP65卖15100，其实只差了3750欧，但是不带LDS的UP65仅卖8140欧，也就是说LDS加一个更大更便于保养的镜筒卖了3120欧。本来想有没有可能定一个不带LDS的MP65，是不是能省2000-3000欧。arri答复是：那样会更贵。

http://www.cinematography.com/index.php?showtopic=17284#ixzz19Crt1jp1
cooke从焦内到焦外的过渡比较缓慢，所以会觉得cooke更肉一些，不过看过一张对比照cooke S4 50@T2确实比不上MP 50@T2，当然全开对收缩也不太公平。
The Ultra Primes are very sharp lenses with a very distinct focus fall-off. The difference between what's in fcous and out-of-focus is always very clear. With the Cooke S4s on the other hand the focus fall-off is more gradual and less obvious, which can make them to look softer than the Ultra Primes, simply because your eye has trouble distinguishing what's in focus and what's not.

Where the Cooke S4s excel is contrast. They look more three-dimensional and organic than the Ultra Primes.

Read more: http://www.cinematography.com/index.php?showtopic=17284#ixzz1AK58JegJ

如果没记错的话应该是REDONE user上的两位对cooke和UP的评论。由于对焦结构不同，cooke的手感与UP不太一样。

I haven't used Cooke S4, but UltraPrimes several times. I love the shapness and the way they handle contrast, plus color rendition. And for camera assistants, Im sure they love that focus scales.

Actually i prefer the scales on the Cookes. And they give a different feel when pulling focus due to their inner mechanics, which are completely different from the Zeiss lenses. It's hard to describe, but pulling focus on a Cooke lens for me is a lot more intuitive than with a Zeiss lens.

MP65大家可能不太常见这个尺寸的头，多是50 75 85的图片，65的镜片比50和75都要内凹一些。

cooke pachro/i的集体照片不多。上一个。我还以为都是短屁股呢，弄了半天也不是。

这个我就不奢望了。

以后我就奔这方向去了。

对比一下这个转接环，难道接cooke真的不漏光？

leica的PL，和Zeiss的一样

cooke的PL

[JLC 编辑于 2011-01-07 09:28]

现在仅存的问题是，怎么能在UP前面加一个能真正起到防尘作用的保护镜，就像螺丝口的UV那样，问了好久也没人答复，只能去找王学山去订做了。arri好像没听说有Master Diopters样子的保护镜，很是烦恼。

cooke样式的PL口有点像相机的连接风格，PL爪前面有一个平面，像是相机的卡口平面一样的样子，但是Zeiss的PL口前面就没有这个平面，弄得我搞了半天才明白PL的法兰焦距52mm是从哪里算起的。到现在还不太明白了，难道cooke那样的不容易漏光么？实在是不拿到失物是想不明白了。另外，带LDS（cooke称i）的，不容易进灰么？

就一个光圈环和一个对焦环有用，最多加一个变焦环有用，其他的都是辅助的，不知道干嘛的也无所谓

我不会去买MP100的，我会买一个UP65回来。

非常感谢!这一年非常忙,东西都撂下很久没耍了,到年底才有空拿出来凑凑热闹,忘了一干净.

原來是私訊等等的東西
更正一下有12片結構的
是Zeiss MP 100/1.3
不知怎麼會聊到100/2
或許你常提ZF100傳染了

還是勸你實際去用用吧

記得一年前回答過您
是Arri Bayonet Mount

电影头上怎么那么多数字环，谁给科普一下：D

用无忌安卓客户端发帖测试

别老研究了  快买一个吧
研究半天不买真的没啥意思啊

大家细研究cooke、schneider的PL口和Zeiss的不一样。有时见大家自己研究吧。

这个是PL，四个爪的，有八个螺丝。

请教一下，电影镜头距离标尺的后边，有很多密集的数字排列，这个是做什么用途啊？

我只知道这肯定不是PL，至于是不是B4我就完全不知道了，保不齐是Arriflex的标准口，哪位懂行的先生给讲讲。

上一张小尺寸的相圈对比图，大家不要总大幅超范围地使用电影头搞转接，效果不会特别理想的，或者叫保不齐会觉得几万的镜头还不如几千块钱普通摄影头呢。尤其是小画幅的老电影头。这里我就不多说啥了。

后口是这样的,是B4口还是PL口啊?

zeiss master prime保不齐会虚报光圈的：
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=35106
Red primes vs zeiss ultra prime lenses

Stephen Williams
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Interestingly Cooke S5's seem to transmit more light than a competitors lens that claims to be faster.
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Hi,

Some of the Zeiss Superspeeds are not as fast as claimed, I cant remember which 2 in the set.
I have seen issues with other lenses. If somebody could measure a set of RPP's that would be interesting.
The new Schneider lenses are all marked slightly differently, probably telling the truth T2, T2.1, T2.2. Getting all the lenses in a set to all be identical would be pretty clever, unless the iris restricts some light at the wide end.

The DP lit a scene using MP's wide open, when he switched to S5's the image was brighter. The S5's are T1.4 as opposed to T1.3. I don't know the focal length.
Stephen