N家 16-85 VR头 与 18-200 VRII头 纠结篇
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[4 楼] 杭州卡夫卡 [资深泡菜]
10-1-13 16:59
别纠结啦,洋文还过得去的话,看看这里:http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/16-85mm-vs-18-200mm.htm

另外一个网页的摘录:
Hugh Look , Jun 25, 2008; 05:49 a.m.

My suggestion would not be a technical one: instead, look at lots of travel pictures (e.g. some of the National Geographic books) & ask "which ones would I like to have as either a good reminder of my honeymoon or as stunning images that will satisfy me as a photographer". If a lot of them are close-in, dynamic, shots with lots going on in the foreground, or wide-open-spaces with huge skies then go for the 16-85; if on the other hand they are rather more distant, long-range images then the 18-200 may suit you better.

If they are in the middle you will probably be OK with either!

I have both, and the technical answer is of course "it all depends". Overall, the 16-85 seems to me to have better image quality than the 18-200, especially at or near full aperture. It also feels better built than my version of the 18-200, although I understand that these have improved recently - mine was an early model. The VR works very well on both.

The reason I prefer the 16-85 and end up using it much more is simply that it offers a little bit of extra wide-angle that makes a difference for me: I find it better for interiors and fairly close-in street or urban landscape photography. If you are more interested in picking out details, or the occasional wildlife shot, then the 18-200 might be better.

The only other point I'd make on the technical side is that with a D300 and the image quality of the 16-85 you do have some room for cropping to the equivalent of a longer lens and still being able to print to up to A3, which would give you some additional reach (although maybe not the full 200mm). The 18-200 can be quite soft at the longer end, making the difference less noticeable.

The tripod advice is good, but if you can't a beanbag is very useful and easy to carry around. You can usually find a convenient wall/table/passing small child or large dog to perch it on for self-timer shots of you & your wife, too.

H

Richard Armstrong , Jun 25, 2008; 07:17 a.m.

As others have mentioned, you will find a host of opinions here. I have traveled with the 18-200 on my D300 and have been very pleased with it's range, convenience and quality. I don't think you'll really find yourself obsessing about apertures or whether you have zoomed out close to 200. After all, you will be enjoying your honeymoon:-)! Seriously, you can produce very nice sharp images with the 18-200 VR. I would recommend that you take a look at Matt Laur's travel shots from Italy with the 18-200 and read his comments on this lens in his forum posts.

Peter Hamm , Jun 25, 2008; 07:32 a.m.

I think if you want a one-lens travel solution, the 18-200 is the easy choice. I'd rather not miss the 85-200 range than the 16-18 range for almost the same price. I shot a LOT above 85mm on my trip to Alaska two years ago, which is what I bought it for.

At the long end the 18-200 suffers a bit wide-open, but wider than say 80mm I don't find that it really does, although I do try and shoot in the sweet spot of f8 - f13 as much as I can.

Check out Thom Hogan's excellent review.

http://www.bythom.com/18200lens.htm
[3 楼] kj008 [陈年泡菜]
10-1-13 16:46
原文由 杭州卡夫卡 在2010-01-13 16:45发表

楼主家LD很专业啊,诸事请示即可


家庭妇女……过日子专业户,哈哈~~
[2 楼] 杭州卡夫卡 [资深泡菜]
10-1-13 16:45
原文由 kj008 在2010-01-13 16:42发表
话说年关将至,尽管年底红包未现,但手头开始渐痒。经请示LD,同意D80升级换代,费用酌情。于是一年多来对相机升级蠢蠢欲动终于化成现实。可理想中的N家D700升级版最终没有出现,等来的却是D300S……想来到时D700的升级版无非也是D300S上面加块全幅……而已。难倒偶真的一直等下去???

唉~~ 发烧让人糊涂,等待却总让 ......  耳边又响起LD苦口婆心铮铮教诲:“一台D700可买一套D300S,


楼主家LD很专业啊,诸事请示即可
[1 楼] kj008 [陈年泡菜]
10-1-13 16:42
话说年关将至,尽管年底红包未现,但手头开始渐痒。经请示LD,同意D80升级换代,费用酌情。于是一年多来对相机升级蠢蠢欲动终于化成现实。可理想中的N家D700升级版最终没有出现,等来的却是D300S……想来到时D700的升级版无非也是D300S上面加块全幅……而已。难倒偶真的一直等下去???

唉~~ 发烧让人糊涂,等待却总让人反省啊…… 扪心自问,全幅真的是那么重要嘛??偶那点水平用个全幅就能显著提高??自个的钱包也真的也升级啦??…… 这时偶的脑中立马浮现出LD闪闪发光的光辉革命形象,耳边又响起LD苦口婆心铮铮教诲:“一台D700可买一套D300S,哪个合算自个掂量……烧啥无所谓,但偶们是过日子人家……”LD的话句句带针,字字带刺,让偶阵痛之后茅塞顿开,终于顿悟“三个永远”—— 相信并听从LD永远没错;过日子永远比烧相机重要;钱包升级永远没有相机升级快。

于是痛定思痛,还是按照偶那咖机发烧准则——小烧有益,量兜而行吧。终于不愿再去等啥啦……左思右想瞻前顾后,想来自个天资愚笨,天性懒惰,出手小农,再加上主要还是外出游玩为主,兼外拍小LD ,前一次去大西北借了台D300,感觉比D80真不是一个档次,于是下定决心排除万难决定就烧D300S点到为止吧,思想已定,板上钉钉啦。这个请各位DX手下留情,口下积德,千万别再给偶放其他剧毒啦……拜托拜托,呵呵~~~

今日求教的是配镜之事, 16-85 VR头还是18-200 VRII 头,两者价格差距不大,前者广角点,后者长焦点,貌似画质也相差不大,所以纠结至今,想来无忌高人如云,特上来请教,请各位DX就事论事,就镜谈镜,就在这两头之间帮助偶选择推荐,动之以情,晓之以理,以便让偶决断、了断。偶以前100位推荐中比例占先者购之。

再次诚恳提醒各位DX一定要手下留情,口下积德,就事论事,就镜谈镜,不要再无边放毒出去,偶受之不起,也折腾不起,再次拜谢。呵呵~~

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[kj008 编辑于 2010-01-13 16:45]

[2010-01-15 11:24 补充如下]

感谢广大TX热情踊跃的推荐……偶真的很感动……谁都没有把偶往死里推,基本围绕这2个头在转……相反玩主坛的几个咖友就不厚道……尽把偶往火坑里推……嘘,千万别让他们看见啦……

在此偶一并谢过……也就不一一回复啦,去掉模棱两可滴,到现在的粗略统计:
赞同16-85 的 30票
赞同18-200的 20票

基本属于旗鼓相当……感觉对18-200的认知多半在老版的基础上,不知道新版的是否有些革命性的改观,呵呵~~

再满100票……继续…… 呵呵~~